Zelda Mafia Round2: MAFIA WINS!

[Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds]

Dude, you didn't believe HotD's roleclaim, the one you insisted she make all of day one and two, so why should someone else's word change anything? You want to act like it would've made a difference? I doubt that.

I don't blame SK for not coming out and talking about it. He probably had an item and didn't want to be interrogated by single-minded fools. No one even knows what he "saw" in this stalking session. Why are you assuming he knows whether or not ZG's photo was of HotD?

Besides. ZG gave away her role by saying she took the photos. She was dead in that moment, because she was the biggest obvious threat to the Mafia right there. SK couldn't save her, nor are we in any position to say if he could speak for HotD or not.

[I am nobody]

SD: SK said it was an ability. That's asking for a night kill, not a theif. No reason to lie about that. Why wouldn't he see who ZG took a picture of? He's stalking her. No, SK could not save her. Sk could have saved time. He didn't. He let us waste it. 2 days were wasted on HotD. SK could have said that at any time. Fnord would have been able to confirm he stalked her. There is no reason for SK's secrecy.

[Heroine of the Dragon]

But you see, Tazy.. the way I think is that to vote someone out of a game for reasons of pity is against our win conditions. Wy actually role claimed. And still, people blindly lynched him. So if you're not Mafia, then, Silvie must be according to my calculations. What do you think, Tazy?

Voting me was a good excuse to NOT vote the evil I helped discovered... namely CL, who admitted her evil role. I'd like to understand why you wanted to keep the Slasher alive when our win conditions specifically state that we must seek and destroy all evil. Why didn't you change your vote from me then?

True that... you did come in and vote for TG. So did Silvie... are you two in cahoots?

But the thing is, I trust Mikhail and SML implicitly. You'll have to understand that I'm NOT going to even consider them regardless of their activity.

It may seem I forget to factor in things, but perhaps you are forgetting that I also factor in my gut instinct... like the way you responded to me before this last post. It set off mega alarm bells. The thing is... this last post of yours feels different than the one before it. Ask Daos about it some time, since he'd understand this the most probably.

I truly don't expect you playing ZM 4/7 but the 'inactivity' is a good excuse now, for some, to hide real intentions.

There's ten of us left... and according to some reports, there may be three or four Mafia left... so, we cannot all still be Townies... and I'm pretty certain that Daos and SD are Townies... until proven otherwise. I believe Mikhail is a Townie and I know for a fact that SML and I are Townies. So... I feel that I can trust four others... and they are the first four I'd save from a lynching... (unless any of you turn out evil!! ) HOW many do you feel confident of trusting, Tazy?

I'm uncertain of you, Tazy, and also Silvie, NG and S_K.

I have no idea what alignment IAN is... he doesn't act like a Townie even though he knew the win conditions.

Five each way for me currently... I'll be devastated to discover that Mikhail, Daos and ESSDEE are all Mafia.

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NintendoGod... why aren't you posting? I see you online at different times... whatcha hiding? Would you care to tell me who you suspect is Mafia after all the reading you've done? And why?

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Silverwind... I'd like to know who you suspect as the Mafia now you've been reading the thread? And why, too? You're suspicious in that you also, did not change your vote to CL when you 'heard' her claim to be the Slasher... and then you just explain it away as 'some you get, and some you don't'...

I find it interesting that you expect us to consider that you could skip reading a lot of stuff earlier, and make decisions that could clearly affect the game and still hope to escape suspicion. WHY should any of us trust you?

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Please excuse me as I re-re-re-hash some things... I'm seriously trying to determine all your alignments here...

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*spins around in joy* I'm having fun, Crav...

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Interesting how you contributed to a lot of that wasted time, IAN. I'm not sure that you're all that you want us to believe.

[Wyborn]

Darling watched them; precious few spoke, but most listened. No one, Townie or Mafia, could continue to hide behind silence for long.

He untied the noose, and wrapped the rope around his forearm. Was he nervous? It was hard to tell.

[Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds]

Sorry, can't remember what was said, exactly, and haven't gotten up to that part of the topic yet. I didn't say anything about a thief, I said he probably didn't want to be interrogated. Because, you know, people like yourself decide what you want to hear instead of actually listening to what anyone has to say when defending themself.

By "stalking", you are assuming he was told exactly the same kind of details as anyone else who could "stalk". Let's remember a few choice points:

ZG's "stalking" was taking a photo, and we all got presented with the result in the morning paper. It could also be tampered with, which we have since concluded happened in the case of photographing HotD.

The mask that Mikhail and yourself have used for "stalking" produced a different type of result. You get told personally what you "saw" during the night.

Do we KNOW what SK could see? Maybe his "stalking" was to be told someone's item-usage for the night, or if they got something given to them. Hell if I know, if he hasn't told us what his ability does exactly, we can't really just go on what Mikhail said from using the mask.

I haven't finished reading or writing my actual post, but I still want to get this out of my system:

FoS: ian

Mmm-mm! Feels good. This is going to be very satisfying to complete.

[Daos]

Well I'm not sure how long we have left on this "day". What I will say is that HotD has proven herself over and over again and is generally much better at this then I am. I'm not saying I am incapable of my own thoughts but in my experience she hits mafia members at a 100% accuracy. I trust her and I trust her judgment. If she thinks Tazy is mafia then Tazy gets my vote.

[Heroine of the Dragon]

ACK!!! I feel flattered that you trust my judgement, Daos, but please... I can be just as wrong as anyone else. I hope that I'm not in this moment, though, because I do try hard to follow up my suspicions with 'evidence', as flimsy as it may be when people are 'hiding behind life-busyness and inactivity'!!

You know... the waiting is difficult... waiting for those who are inactive to suddenly appear... waiting for them to form a response... and then the waiting to think it all over...

Too much time to think is most likely the best thing for me, though... it gives me the opportunity to work things out. Unlike the first day and a half when I had barely time to think through all the attacks. No wonder I'm having fun now!!

[Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds]

Fwah, Daos, that's the kind of behaviour that had everyone crying for HotD's blood on the first day XD

STILL RESEARCHING GODDAMN YOU ALL FOR MAKING THIS HARD

[Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds]

Research completed, post needs to be organised... however, I'm at my Hungarian aunt's place for super tasty things as a goodbye dinner for our cousin, so it might take a while. In the very least, I promise there will be something tangible for you all tomorrow.

ONWARDS TO DELICIOUSNESS~ nom nom nom : D

[I am nobody]

*Notes that SD did not vote for That Guy, and was one of the last to vote for X-3*

DOUBLE POST:

*Also notices that SK, Sliverwind and Tazy all voted for Wy.*

[Rolls-Royce Man]

Originally Posted by Heroine of the Dragon

But you see, Tazy.. the way I think is that to vote someone out of a game for reasons of pity is against our win conditions. Wy actually role claimed. And still, people blindly lynched him. So if you're not Mafia, then, Silvie must be according to my calculations. What do you think, Tazy?

I'm sorry, but at the time. It seemed that Wyborn wanted out. I Didn't think that he "Didn't really want to leave" or something like that. If I wanted to leave I would've also said Lynch me. I'm not saying that some MafiaMen didn't vote for Wyborn. But to use JUST this as a reason for lyching is short sighted. You aren't so....

Voting me was a good excuse to NOT vote the evil I helped discovered... namely CL, who admitted her evil role. I'd like to understand why you wanted to keep the Slasher alive when our win conditions specifically state that we must seek and destroy all evil. Why didn't you change your vote from me then?

Well, at the time it seemed like a good idea. ZG, who was originally WITH you, was suddenly against you. CL, who was the Slasher, "admitted" to attacking you, but you survived meaning you could live through night kills (This was what was assumed.) Lots of us Townies were stupid and thought "OH! CL CAN BUMP OFF SOME MAFIA, AND IF SHE FAILS WE HANGS HER! OR THE MAFIA ATTACK HER!" You LOOKED like Mafia. I wanted to get someone. Many were voting for you, and CL. I believed the Bull and voted, then kept it, because I was being led by the hand through Barbed Wire. I was stupid, and because of this we had an abstain.

I just thought that CL would help us....

She Didn't. And all of us Townies get Face-Seeking Smacks to the face for our stupidity.

True that... you did come in and vote for TG. So did Silvie... are you two in cahoots?

I wouldn't know. But, I guess then again, TG WAS Mafia. But, why vote off TG?!

He screwed up, it was obvious.

BUT, one could also do it to take suspicion off.

Sure, blame me, but also blame Silverwind.

But the thing is, I trust Mikhail and SML implicitly. You'll have to understand that I'm NOT going to even consider them regardless of their activity.

I know. They actually helped turn this around. If thier inactivity can help root out the problems, then I'm all on board.

I was just saying, if you attack me for my inactivity, just know, I'm not the only inactive person

It may seem I forget to factor in things, but perhaps you are forgetting that I also factor in my gut instinct... like the way you responded to me before this last post. It set off mega alarm bells. The thing is... this last post of yours feels different than the one before it. Ask Daos about it some time, since he'd understand this the most probably.

....Because I said O NOES?

OOOOOOH! It's because I accused you of attacking anyone who doubts you.

Sorry about that. It's just the way some people see things.....

I truly don't expect you playing ZM 4/7 but the 'inactivity' is a good excuse now, for some, to hide real intentions.

My REAL Intention is to win the game by uprooting all the Mafia.

The Mafia have hidden really good, but when time went on, we can see that inactivity is a good charade. Like I said, NG has been very inactive, and has barely posted, unless it was to Vote.....I'll have to go all the way back to see who he voted for, but I have a theory.

There's ten of us left... and according to some reports, there may be three or four Mafia left... so, we cannot all still be Townies... and I'm pretty certain that Daos and SD are Townies... until proven otherwise. I believe Mikhail is a Townie and I know for a fact that SML and I are Townies. So... I feel that I can trust four others... and they are the first four I'd save from a lynching... (unless any of you turn out evil!! ) HOW many do you feel confident of trusting, Tazy?

You're TOO crazy to be Mafia. I mean, if you were, we'd already have lost. I'm sure Mikhail and SML aren't....and SD isn't.....I USED to think MK wasn't....but now, I don't know.......

I'm uncertain of you, Tazy, and also Silvie, NG and S_K.

I have no idea what alignment IAN is... he doesn't act like a Townie even though he knew the win conditions.

IAN has always been a little....off....His craziness has saved him before.......He could be the perfect Mafioso, but he could also be our most important Townie (Doubt it -_-)

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Five each way for me currently... I'll be devastated to discover that Mikhail, Daos and ESSDEE are all Mafia.
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If SML is Mafia, I'm gonna do backflips out of this Forum.....

The others sound right to me....

Originally Posted by Daos

Well I'm not sure how long we have left on this "day". What I will say is that HotD has proven herself over and over again and is generally much better at this then I am. I'm not saying I am incapable of my own thoughts but in my experience she hits mafia members at a 100% accuracy. I trust her and I trust her judgment. If she thinks Tazy is mafia then Tazy gets my vote.

You shouldn't let someone lead you by the hand. But, If you vote someone off, make sure you know it's Mafia.

Originally Posted by i_am_nobody

*Notes that SD did not vote for That Guy, and was one of the last to vote for X-3*

DOUBLE POST:

*Also notices that SK, Sliverwind and Tazy all voted for Wy.*

.....no comment....I think this is SD's anyway......

[I am nobody]

Originally Posted by Tazy Ten

You're TOO crazy to be Mafia. I mean, if you were, we'd already have lost.

Uh... Why would the town lose because of a crazy mafia? I think I see a slip up.

[Rolls-Royce Man]

I'm stating that HotD is so good at acting like a Townie, and is so forceful, we'd lose because we'd never find her.....

Though, I can see why you say "DAT BE SLIP UP"

[I am nobody]

^ Even though we almost killed her twice? That doesn't make sense.