Hyrulian War Two--THE SIGN UP!! - Page 3 - VGF

**Booyakasha** · 02-13-2008, 11:33 PM

^'Ehhh! Ehhh!'

Tomorrow and Friday, I'm going to finalise the new formulae and post the revised ruleset here. I'll also be putting together those generals' data packets a la HW1 and sending them out via PM.

Once that's all done, I'll be ready as hell to shove this pig out onto the show-floor. Generals, post here once you've read this so I know you're still ~~alive~~ interested--assuming nobody's gone AWOL, we can probably start next week. It's also on you generals to wake up and/or recruit Freelancers--be creative.

We're still accepting players, by the way--if anyone's just stumbled in here for the first time, if anyone already playing knows anyone who's up for a bit of RP and carnage, there's always room. I'd only ask that you sign up here and not in the eventual 'WAR ITSELF!!' topic, O my brothers.

StarryPeach · 02-13-2008, 11:36 PM

Sign me up. Not sure whether I should be a General or a Freelancer yet, though...

The Missing Link · 02-13-2008, 11:59 PM

I'm here. Still interested. However, I'm going to be gone for a good part of next week.

**Booyakasha** · 02-14-2008, 12:18 AM

^Heh. Your absence makes any part of a week the good part, old squid.

Seriously, though, we can postpone for a few days.

Microphone_Kirby · 02-14-2008, 12:28 AM

I'm Ready to go!

And Crav, I'm willing to Hire you if I didn't make it clear. Willing to join the Undead?

The Missing Link · 02-14-2008, 01:03 AM

Boo, I'll be gone starting Tuesday through Friday evening. Just FYI. And thanks.

I am nobody · 02-14-2008, 04:37 AM

I'm still interested.

That Guy · 02-14-2008, 08:00 AM

Microphone_Kirby · 02-14-2008, 08:38 AM

Oh TG, would you like to join the undead too?

I <3 Freelancers! ^_^
(if you need proof why... yeah, I don't think I need to explain

)

Tazy_10 · 02-16-2008, 09:57 AM

Ok,

THE MISSING LINK!

I once again swear my alligence to the Zoras.

You want me?

**Wyborn** · 02-16-2008, 01:52 PM

Seriously, for anyone who wants the Gerudo General position, I will gladly go freelance. SP, TG, anyone: if you want it, it's yours. I'll take it otherwise, but the option is there for you.

The Missing Link · 02-16-2008, 09:11 PM

Sure, why not, Tazy. Do our troops justice and all that.

(Now I just have to figure out how the hell to use freelancers!)

**Booyakasha** · 02-17-2008, 06:37 PM

Freelancers behave according to their volition. Once you hire them, you lose control over their activities, save that you're allowed to fire them at any point. They, in turn, are free to act as they see fit--however, as non-regular troops, they receive no racial or attribute bonuses and cannot act in your name (say, by claiming territory for your nation).

Put yourself in General Washington's shoes--you can't tell the Swamp Fox what to do, but you're glad as hell he's on your side.

Tad Venture · 02-17-2008, 07:17 PM

I echo Wy's sentiments. After generaling last round, I want to get a different feel for the game. Anyone who wants to be a Kokiri general, let me know. And then hire me. I like my character a lot--I'm going to use Aaric again in my roleplays no matter what.

**Booyakasha** · 02-20-2008, 12:29 PM

All right, let's get down to brass tacks and rat-killin'.

This war is going to proceed in much the same fashion as last war. Generals take one turn per round. I process 'turns' in the order I receive them, so those of you who post your updates early get the advantage of hitting first; on the other hand, later posters have the advantage of seeing and reacting to what the other people do. It's a trade-off.

Your main duties as general are to decide how you want to allocate money and resources, and to capture territory.

At the start of each round, you receive 100 rupees for every 3 territories you control (or 33 apiece). This is the same as what happened during HW1. Rupees are used to train new troops and pay Freelancer fees. When HW2 starts, you'll only be able to train regular infantry for the first few months; new units (such as archers and cavaliers) will appear later on in the war.
Infantry: 4 rupees/unit

Resources are going to be handled a sight differently this time around. Whereas in the last round resources were available to be bought on the open market, they will not in HW2; rather, in HW2, you will receive a one-time bonus of 25 resources for each new territory you take over. This makes for a finite amount, of course, so make sure to use them wisely. (Resources may end up regenerating over time. We'll see.)

Each nation starts out with its three ancestral territories (those being the extremities of the map), 100 resources, and some twelve-hundred odd troops or so.

Combat is going to work the same this war as it was in the past. When one army attacks another, I first roll a die; on a 1 or 2, the attacking army is repelled, and both sides lose 10% of their forces. On a 3 or higher, the attack succeeds; I then total up the Damage Potential on both sides (base Damage Potential for a single infantry unit is 1; some units will have higher DP due to racial advantage or attribute bonuses). The side with the lower DP loses the fight automatically, dealing damage to the enemy corresponding to the formula (lower DP squared)/(higher DP).

For instance, let's say 300 Goron infantry attack a Hylian force of 200. Hylian DP is 200; Goron DP is 330 (300 base, plus 10% because of their racial ability). All the Hylians are killed; before they fall, though, they manage to kill 121 of their attackers. ((200^2)/330 = 121.2) I know, it may seem needlessly complex, but it's worked a treat so far--besides, a simple subtraction formula would favor the losers.

Random Encounters and Environmental Alerts are returning. For the former, I roll a die three times; first to determine the army affected, then to determine the nature of the encounter (hostile, friendly, or neutral), and finally to determine the scale. For the latter, I roll a die once, to see which army is going to be affected. We'll start out with one of each; there may be more later on.

Freelancer fee's up to 20 rupees per round.

Any questions, post 'em here. I'm hoping to start this thing up some time next week, once TML's back from his expedition to the Pole.

(By the way, you new players--don't let this all intimidate you. I know it seems like a lot to remember, but a) I do most of the calculations and everything myself, b) you're always welcome to ask me any questions you have at all, whether in the topic or via PM, and c) at the end of the day, it's a game. Don't be afraid to make mistakes.)

StarryPeach · 02-21-2008, 12:17 AM

Oh what the heck.

Wyborn. If you're willing to let me have Gerudo General, I'll take it.

**Wyborn** · 02-21-2008, 12:20 AM

Ask, and you shall receive.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am now a freelancer. Boy-howdy am I ever!

Microphone_Kirby · 02-21-2008, 12:24 AM

Congrats on acquiring the position of General, StarryPeach!! ^_^

... I wish you luck, even though we're now rivals.

StarryPeach · 02-21-2008, 12:28 AM

Wyborn: My gracious thanks to you. :)

S_K: I look forward to my "rivalry" with you. xD

Microphone_Kirby · 02-21-2008, 01:36 PM

To SP: >:)

To Crav and That Guy: If you didn't want to join the Undead elite, at least you could've said "NO!!!" instead of making me wait impatiently. I asked you two to join me... :(

02-13-2008, 11:33 PM	#41
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 6,812 Thanks: 75 Thanked 340 Times in 221 Posts Points: 9,754.64 Bank: 20,637.07 Total Points: 30,391.71 Donate	^'Ehhh! Ehhh!' Tomorrow and Friday, I'm going to finalise the new formulae and post the revised ruleset here. I'll also be putting together those generals' data packets a la HW1 and sending them out via PM. Once that's all done, I'll be ready as hell to shove this pig out onto the show-floor. Generals, post here once you've read this so I know you're still ~~alive~~ interested--assuming nobody's gone AWOL, we can probably start next week. It's also on you generals to wake up and/or recruit Freelancers--be creative. We're still accepting players, by the way--if anyone's just stumbled in here for the first time, if anyone already playing knows anyone who's up for a bit of RP and carnage, there's always room. I'd only ask that you sign up here and not in the eventual 'WAR ITSELF!!' topic, O my brothers. __________________ Boo--the only dude bad enough to rescue the president

02-14-2008, 12:18 AM	#44
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 6,812 Thanks: 75 Thanked 340 Times in 221 Posts Points: 9,754.64 Bank: 20,637.07 Total Points: 30,391.71 Donate	^Heh. Your absence makes any part of a week the good part, old squid. Seriously, though, we can postpone for a few days. __________________ Boo--the only dude bad enough to rescue the president

02-17-2008, 06:37 PM	#53
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 6,812 Thanks: 75 Thanked 340 Times in 221 Posts Points: 9,754.64 Bank: 20,637.07 Total Points: 30,391.71 Donate	Freelancers behave according to their volition. Once you hire them, you lose control over their activities, save that you're allowed to fire them at any point. They, in turn, are free to act as they see fit--however, as non-regular troops, they receive no racial or attribute bonuses and cannot act in your name (say, by claiming territory for your nation). Put yourself in General Washington's shoes--you can't tell the Swamp Fox what to do, but you're glad as hell he's on your side. __________________ Boo--the only dude bad enough to rescue the president

02-20-2008, 12:29 PM	#55
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 6,812 Thanks: 75 Thanked 340 Times in 221 Posts Points: 9,754.64 Bank: 20,637.07 Total Points: 30,391.71 Donate	Revised Ruleset and Formulae--Generals All right, let's get down to brass tacks and rat-killin'. This war is going to proceed in much the same fashion as last war. Generals take one turn per round. I process 'turns' in the order I receive them, so those of you who post your updates early get the advantage of hitting first; on the other hand, later posters have the advantage of seeing and reacting to what the other people do. It's a trade-off. Your main duties as general are to decide how you want to allocate money and resources, and to capture territory. At the start of each round, you receive 100 rupees for every 3 territories you control (or 33 apiece). This is the same as what happened during HW1. Rupees are used to train new troops and pay Freelancer fees. When HW2 starts, you'll only be able to train regular infantry for the first few months; new units (such as archers and cavaliers) will appear later on in the war. Infantry: 4 rupees/unit Resources are going to be handled a sight differently this time around. Whereas in the last round resources were available to be bought on the open market, they will not in HW2; rather, in HW2, you will receive a one-time bonus of 25 resources for each new territory you take over. This makes for a finite amount, of course, so make sure to use them wisely. (Resources may end up regenerating over time. We'll see.) Each nation starts out with its three ancestral territories (those being the extremities of the map), 100 resources, and some twelve-hundred odd troops or so. Combat is going to work the same this war as it was in the past. When one army attacks another, I first roll a die; on a 1 or 2, the attacking army is repelled, and both sides lose 10% of their forces. On a 3 or higher, the attack succeeds; I then total up the Damage Potential on both sides (base Damage Potential for a single infantry unit is 1; some units will have higher DP due to racial advantage or attribute bonuses). The side with the lower DP loses the fight automatically, dealing damage to the enemy corresponding to the formula (lower DP squared)/(higher DP). For instance, let's say 300 Goron infantry attack a Hylian force of 200. Hylian DP is 200; Goron DP is 330 (300 base, plus 10% because of their racial ability). All the Hylians are killed; before they fall, though, they manage to kill 121 of their attackers. ((200^2)/330 = 121.2) I know, it may seem needlessly complex, but it's worked a treat so far--besides, a simple subtraction formula would favor the losers. Random Encounters and Environmental Alerts are returning. For the former, I roll a die three times; first to determine the army affected, then to determine the nature of the encounter (hostile, friendly, or neutral), and finally to determine the scale. For the latter, I roll a die once, to see which army is going to be affected. We'll start out with one of each; there may be more later on. Freelancer fee's up to 20 rupees per round. Any questions, post 'em here. I'm hoping to start this thing up some time next week, once TML's back from his expedition to the Pole. (By the way, you new players--don't let this all intimidate you. I know it seems like a lot to remember, but a) I do most of the calculations and everything myself, b) you're always welcome to ask me any questions you have at all, whether in the topic or via PM, and c) at the end of the day, it's a game. Don't be afraid to make mistakes.) __________________ Boo--the only dude bad enough to rescue the president

02-21-2008, 01:36 PM	#60
Microphone_Kirby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Black... all I see is black... Gender: Posts: 4,913 Thanks: 255 Thanked 77 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 175.40 Bank: 16,247.67 Total Points: 16,423.07 Donate	To SP: >:) To Crav and That Guy: If you didn't want to join the Undead elite, at least you could've said "NO!!!" instead of making me wait impatiently. I asked you two to join me... :( Last edited by Microphone_Kirby; 02-21-2008 at 01:45 PM.

02-13-2008, 11:36 PM	#42
StarryPeach You placed the stars in the sky and you know them by name Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere Gender: Posts: 5,904 Thanks: 152 Thanked 58 Times in 52 Posts Points: 230.93 Bank: 9,619.25 Total Points: 9,850.18 Donate	Sign me up. Not sure whether I should be a General or a Freelancer yet, though...

02-13-2008, 11:59 PM	#43
The Missing Link Professional Lurker Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Hyrule, Washington, US Gender: Posts: 15,573 Thanks: 80 Thanked 183 Times in 110 Posts Points: 6,307.15 Bank: 54,243.76 Total Points: 60,550.91 Donate	I'm here. Still interested. However, I'm going to be gone for a good part of next week.

02-14-2008, 12:28 AM	#45
Microphone_Kirby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Black... all I see is black... Gender: Posts: 4,913 Thanks: 255 Thanked 77 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 175.40 Bank: 16,247.67 Total Points: 16,423.07 Donate	I'm Ready to go! And Crav, I'm willing to Hire you if I didn't make it clear. Willing to join the Undead?

02-14-2008, 01:03 AM	#46
The Missing Link Professional Lurker Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Hyrule, Washington, US Gender: Posts: 15,573 Thanks: 80 Thanked 183 Times in 110 Posts Points: 6,307.15 Bank: 54,243.76 Total Points: 60,550.91 Donate	Boo, I'll be gone starting Tuesday through Friday evening. Just FYI. And thanks.

02-14-2008, 04:37 AM	#47
I am nobody Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Here's a hint: There are people here. Gender: Posts: 3,047 Thanks: 105 Thanked 97 Times in 64 Posts Blog Entries: 3 Points: 2,888.69 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 2,888.69 Donate	I'm still interested.

02-14-2008, 08:00 AM	#48
That Guy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 5,147 Thanks: 256 Thanked 137 Times in 103 Posts Points: 13,605.63 Bank: 25,864.31 Total Points: 39,469.94 Donate	.

02-14-2008, 08:38 AM	#49
Microphone_Kirby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Black... all I see is black... Gender: Posts: 4,913 Thanks: 255 Thanked 77 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 175.40 Bank: 16,247.67 Total Points: 16,423.07 Donate	Oh TG, would you like to join the undead too? I <3 Freelancers! ^_^ (if you need proof why... yeah, I don't think I need to explain )

02-16-2008, 09:57 AM	#50
Tazy_10 Forum Host Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Santa Destroy Gender: Posts: 7,407 Thanks: 146 Thanked 253 Times in 198 Posts Blog Entries: 4 Points: 16,970.76 Bank: 25,623.80 Total Points: 42,594.56 Donate	Ok, THE MISSING LINK! I once again swear my alligence to the Zoras. You want me?

02-16-2008, 01:52 PM	#51
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,325 Thanks: 85 Thanked 439 Times in 270 Posts Points: 14,413.55 Bank: 70,118.94 Total Points: 84,532.49 Donate	Seriously, for anyone who wants the Gerudo General position, I will gladly go freelance. SP, TG, anyone: if you want it, it's yours. I'll take it otherwise, but the option is there for you.

02-16-2008, 09:11 PM	#52
The Missing Link Professional Lurker Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Hyrule, Washington, US Gender: Posts: 15,573 Thanks: 80 Thanked 183 Times in 110 Posts Points: 6,307.15 Bank: 54,243.76 Total Points: 60,550.91 Donate	Sure, why not, Tazy. Do our troops justice and all that. (Now I just have to figure out how the hell to use freelancers!)

02-17-2008, 07:17 PM	#54
Tad Venture Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 23,412 Thanks: 464 Thanked 620 Times in 365 Posts Points: 77,927.47 Bank: 90,883.14 Total Points: 168,810.61 Donate	I echo Wy's sentiments. After generaling last round, I want to get a different feel for the game. Anyone who wants to be a Kokiri general, let me know. And then hire me. I like my character a lot--I'm going to use Aaric again in my roleplays no matter what.

02-21-2008, 12:17 AM	#56
StarryPeach You placed the stars in the sky and you know them by name Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere Gender: Posts: 5,904 Thanks: 152 Thanked 58 Times in 52 Posts Points: 230.93 Bank: 9,619.25 Total Points: 9,850.18 Donate	Oh what the heck. Wyborn. If you're willing to let me have Gerudo General, I'll take it.

02-21-2008, 12:20 AM	#57
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,325 Thanks: 85 Thanked 439 Times in 270 Posts Points: 14,413.55 Bank: 70,118.94 Total Points: 84,532.49 Donate	Ask, and you shall receive. Ladies and gentlemen, I am now a freelancer. Boy-howdy am I ever!

02-21-2008, 12:24 AM	#58
Microphone_Kirby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Black... all I see is black... Gender: Posts: 4,913 Thanks: 255 Thanked 77 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 175.40 Bank: 16,247.67 Total Points: 16,423.07 Donate	Congrats on acquiring the position of General, StarryPeach!! ^_^ ... I wish you luck, even though we're now rivals.

02-21-2008, 12:28 AM	#59
StarryPeach You placed the stars in the sky and you know them by name Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere Gender: Posts: 5,904 Thanks: 152 Thanked 58 Times in 52 Posts Points: 230.93 Bank: 9,619.25 Total Points: 9,850.18 Donate	Wyborn: My gracious thanks to you. :) S_K: I look forward to my "rivalry" with you. xD