When is there gonna be a new Zelda? - VGF

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 05-08-2008, 03:47 PM

What is supposed to be the next Zelda game? It's probably too soon to ask if there's any info on another one, since Phantom Hourglass is surely unbeaten by a lot of people at this point...But maybe at least a system has been chosen for the next game?

Also on a side note, I noticed every Nintendo character has more than one game genre under it's belt, why not Zelda? A Zelda RPG would be great.

**Booyakasha** · 05-08-2008, 05:21 PM

^Oh dear. I sense impending rebirth of the 'Zelda--RPG?' debate.

Does 'Link's Crossbow Training' count as a full game?

I've been wondering (rather half-heartedly, I admit) when the next Zelda game will be announced, myself. I vaguely recall some Nintendo mucky-muck referring to TP as 'the end of an era' before its release--perhaps they've planned some franchise-redefining changes for the next title. Hard to say at this point.

Incidentally, it's good to see you again, man. You planning on sticking around?

The Missing Link · 05-08-2008, 07:19 PM

Well, looking back on recent history with the past several games' Japanese release dates:

Ocarina of Time: 21 November 1998
Majora's Mask: 27 April 2000
Wind Waker: 13 December 2002
Four Swords Adventures: 18 March 2004
Twilight Princess: 2 December 2006 (US: 19 November)

Oracle of Ages & Seasons: 27 February 2001
Four Swords: 14 March 2003
Minish Cap: 4 November 2004
Phantom Hourglass: 23 June 2007

There's more or less a basic pattern throughout all of these releases. More or less, for each platform -- console or handheld -- there's around a two-year development cycle (± ½-1 year). Now, Twilight has a really weird history because it was announced well in advance... (2004, was it?), but it kept facing delays that kept pushing it further and further back in the dev cycle... making its release a full 2-3/4 years after Adventures, which -- while a fun game -- isn't exactly your standard modern-day console Zelda game.

Judging by those figures, the earliest you'd expect a new console Zelda to be released would be December 2008, but considering there's nothing on the radar, I'd say you'd expect another release by mid 2009. That means, of course, that we should expect to hear announcements for it perhaps starting the middle of this year.

Just a wild hunch, of course. Really hard to say one way or the other at this point.

**Booyakasha** · 05-08-2008, 09:38 PM

E3, baby.

speed · 05-08-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

Also on a side note, I noticed every Nintendo character has more than one game genre under it's belt, why not Zelda? A Zelda RPG would be great.

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CL No Speako El Spanisho · 05-09-2008, 12:43 AM

I have so many other games to finish that it would be nice if Nintendo would wait a bit and let me catch up.

In all seriousness though, I tend to agree it will probably be about 2009 at the earliest. I don't really care, to be honest. I know there will be another one and I'll just wait for it to come out, I guess. :/

**Crazyswordsman** · 05-09-2008, 03:31 AM

I'd like to see something other than one with Ganon as the villain. You know, someone else try to take over Hyrule. -CSM

**Deku Trii** · 05-09-2008, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by CL No Speako El Spanisho

I have so many other games to finish that it would be nice if Nintendo would wait a bit and let me catch up.

Yeah, Nintendo's problem is totally that they come out with games too fast.

Chunky Kong12345 · 05-09-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CSM Juarez

I'd like to see something other than one with Ganon as the villain. You know, someone else try to take over Hyrule. -CSM

Vaati doesn't count?

The Missing Link · 05-09-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CSM Juarez

I'd like to see something other than one with Ganon as the villain. You know, someone else try to take over Hyrule. -CSM

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Originally Posted by Chunky Kong12345

Vaati doesn't count?

Let me speak for CSM to say what everyone is thinking but nobody will say:

I'd like to see something other than one with Ganondorf as the village. You know, someone else who's really cool that strikes black fear into the hearts of players -- thus rulling out retarded jellyfish shadows with eyes and emo purple guys that turn into a floating eye thingies and really badass scary people that, when they take off their mask, they start crying and throwing a temper tantrum -- try to take over Hyrule. -TML

In short, I'd like to see Nintendo able to make a really decent final boss that isn't Ganondorf.

Joker · 05-09-2008, 11:26 AM

I've always wanted to see a new race emerge in Hyrule. Some where along the lines of Hyrule having to ally themselves with all the other races (including Ganon and his moblins) in order to defeat such a new and powerful threat. The leader of the new race could take the place of Ganon and threaten to suceed where old pig face has failed so many times.

X-3 · 05-09-2008, 03:05 PM

Hey, Majora was a decent villain. Though, he was aiming for Termina, so...

I'd like to see a game where Ganon or some other villain does stuff behind the scenes, leading to a war between races. And then he attacks with an evil army of doom. Eh.

The Missing Link · 05-09-2008, 03:24 PM

Majora, while deadly evil, was a mask. He's perhaps the most respectable non-Ganondorf final boss with the exception of Dark Link at the end of Adventure of Link. Maybe also the Nightmares from Awakening (although that included Ganon... heh).

Veran and Onox were actually good, I will admit that, though neither really was the "final boss". :þ

Of the remainder, Zant was looking to be the best one ever until his character assassination. Followed by Vaati, who turned emo. And then Phantom Hourglass'... we won't go there.

X-3 · 05-09-2008, 03:34 PM

He was a possessed mask. Pretty creepy.

What I think they should have done with Zant is this:

Zant: waaaaaah i want to be king
*Dark portal shooop*
*Ganondorf appears, unconsious for obvious reasons: Triforce is dormant for...some reason?*
Zant: Maybe it's an angel...*Hatching of evil plan here*
*Later...*
Zant: Man I'm king this is awesome. Plus, I have that angel chained up so I can steal energy from him whenever I want to.

Something like that would have been badass. Though, I'm sure what I just posted is full of holes. Somewhere in there.

SephirothKirby · 05-09-2008, 03:35 PM

No, Majora was the name of the mask...wasn't it?

It was just some Skull Kid, or something. I don't recall, really.

>_>;

X-3 · 05-09-2008, 03:39 PM

The mask was possessed. Some evil tribe(Speculated to be the Twili) did some evil magic. Also, magna version of MM has some cool stuff that involves a beastly Majora and someone that looks like FD Link.

Skull Kid was pretty much a "host" for Majora.

1-up salesman · 05-09-2008, 10:29 PM

i want to see a game where you can be link, and another hero.and also, a zelda rpg would be awesome!i would want it on the ds.i want to see a game with ganondorf as a boss, but then he's killed by the final boss and you have to fight a new character.

Frumious B. · 05-09-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1-up salesman

i want to see a game where you can be link, and another hero.and also, a zelda rpg would be awesome!i would want it on the ds.i want to see a game with ganondorf as a boss, but then he's killed by the final boss and you have to fight a new character.

You're head is just filled to the brim with ideas, isn't it?

That Guy · 05-09-2008, 11:49 PM

Majora was a cthulu-equse demon god beyond the understanding of mortal men.

Imprisoned in a mask, yes, but Cthulu is sleeping all the damn time so...

ScottyMcGee · 05-10-2008, 07:43 AM

When I first played Wind Waker I was excited about the mysterious bad guy who didn't show his face. I thought it was gonna be some evil swordsman/magician guy or....something.
But then when I met him I was like, "Oh...it's....Ganondorf again."

Same thing with TP. I thought Zant was going to be badass. In the previous clips you only see him opening his mouthpiece and a slimy, gooey mouth growling. But then he's just some lunatic bird-man hopping around. -___-

I never got so far in Four Swords as to see Vaati, so I never saw the whole "emo" thing that's going around.

There was a slight rumor that one could play as Zelda in TP, since there was a picture with her holding a sword. I thought a Zelda game where you can ACTUALLY be Zelda would be cool. Though, they have to be wary and not make COMPLETELY a Zelda-only game and turn it into something like Super Princess Peach.

05-08-2008, 03:47 PM	#1
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Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 6,630 Thanks: 67 Thanked 291 Times in 193 Posts Points: 15,477.31 Bank: 6,848.97 Total Points: 22,326.28 Donate	^Oh dear. I sense impending rebirth of the 'Zelda--RPG?' debate. Does 'Link's Crossbow Training' count as a full game? I've been wondering (rather half-heartedly, I admit) when the next Zelda game will be announced, myself. I vaguely recall some Nintendo mucky-muck referring to TP as 'the end of an era' before its release--perhaps they've planned some franchise-redefining changes for the next title. Hard to say at this point. Incidentally, it's good to see you again, man. You planning on sticking around? __________________ The nations of Hyrule are on the march to glory once again. Across the land, brave souls steel themselves for battle. Do you dare join them? Hyrulian War II

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The Missing Link Professional Lurker Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Hyrule, Washington, US Gender: Posts: 15,528 Thanks: 79 Thanked 178 Times in 106 Posts Points: 1,319.00 Bank: 33,724.51 Total Points: 35,043.51 Donate	Well, looking back on recent history with the past several games' Japanese release dates: Ocarina of Time: 21 November 1998 Majora's Mask: 27 April 2000 Wind Waker: 13 December 2002 Four Swords Adventures: 18 March 2004 Twilight Princess: 2 December 2006 (US: 19 November) Oracle of Ages & Seasons: 27 February 2001 Four Swords: 14 March 2003 Minish Cap: 4 November 2004 Phantom Hourglass: 23 June 2007 There's more or less a basic pattern throughout all of these releases. More or less, for each platform -- console or handheld -- there's around a two-year development cycle (± ½-1 year). Now, Twilight has a really weird history because it was announced well in advance... (2004, was it?), but it kept facing delays that kept pushing it further and further back in the dev cycle... making its release a full 2-3/4 years after Adventures, which -- while a fun game -- isn't exactly your standard modern-day console Zelda game. Judging by those figures, the earliest you'd expect a new console Zelda to be released would be December 2008, but considering there's nothing on the radar, I'd say you'd expect another release by mid 2009. That means, of course, that we should expect to hear announcements for it perhaps starting the middle of this year. Just a wild hunch, of course. Really hard to say one way or the other at this point.

05-09-2008, 12:43 AM	#6
CL No Speako El Spanisho Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: insert something awkward here Gender: Posts: 3,802 Thanks: 778 Thanked 202 Times in 161 Posts Points: 1,524.16 Bank: 5.16 Total Points: 1,529.32 Donate	I have so many other games to finish that it would be nice if Nintendo would wait a bit and let me catch up. In all seriousness though, I tend to agree it will probably be about 2009 at the earliest. I don't really care, to be honest. I know there will be another one and I'll just wait for it to come out, I guess. :/

05-09-2008, 03:31 AM	#7
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 7,615 Thanks: 497 Thanked 340 Times in 233 Posts Points: 98,509.45 Bank: 13,887.63 Total Points: 112,397.08 Donate	I'd like to see something other than one with Ganon as the villain. You know, someone else try to take over Hyrule. -CSM

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X-3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brigade HQ Gender: Posts: 8,038 Thanks: 205 Thanked 215 Times in 160 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 809.11 Bank: 8,720.73 Total Points: 9,529.84 Donate	Hey, Majora was a decent villain. Though, he was aiming for Termina, so... I'd like to see a game where Ganon or some other villain does stuff behind the scenes, leading to a war between races. And then he attacks with an evil army of doom. Eh.

05-09-2008, 03:24 PM	#13
The Missing Link Professional Lurker Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Hyrule, Washington, US Gender: Posts: 15,528 Thanks: 79 Thanked 178 Times in 106 Posts Points: 1,319.00 Bank: 33,724.51 Total Points: 35,043.51 Donate	Majora, while deadly evil, was a mask. He's perhaps the most respectable non-Ganondorf final boss with the exception of Dark Link at the end of Adventure of Link. Maybe also the Nightmares from Awakening (although that included Ganon... heh). Veran and Onox were actually good, I will admit that, though neither really was the "final boss". :þ Of the remainder, Zant was looking to be the best one ever until his character assassination. Followed by Vaati, who turned emo. And then Phantom Hourglass'... we won't go there.

05-09-2008, 03:34 PM	#14
X-3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brigade HQ Gender: Posts: 8,038 Thanks: 205 Thanked 215 Times in 160 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 809.11 Bank: 8,720.73 Total Points: 9,529.84 Donate	He was a possessed mask. Pretty creepy. What I think they should have done with Zant is this: Zant: waaaaaah i want to be king Dark portal shooop Ganondorf appears, unconsious for obvious reasons: Triforce is dormant for...some reason? Zant: Maybe it's an angel...Hatching of evil plan here Later... Zant: Man I'm king this is awesome. Plus, I have that angel chained up so I can steal energy from him whenever I want to. Something like that would have been badass. Though, I'm sure what I just posted is full of holes. Somewhere in there.

05-09-2008, 03:35 PM	#15
SephirothKirby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: **** YEAH SEAKING! Gender: Posts: 3,604 Thanks: 179 Thanked 219 Times in 138 Posts Points: 478.41 Bank: 66,529.74 Total Points: 67,008.14 Donate	No, Majora was the name of the mask...wasn't it? It was just some Skull Kid, or something. I don't recall, really. >_>;

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X-3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Brigade HQ Gender: Posts: 8,038 Thanks: 205 Thanked 215 Times in 160 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 809.11 Bank: 8,720.73 Total Points: 9,529.84 Donate	The mask was possessed. Some evil tribe(Speculated to be the Twili) did some evil magic. Also, magna version of MM has some cool stuff that involves a beastly Majora and someone that looks like FD Link. Skull Kid was pretty much a "host" for Majora.

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1-up salesman Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: the kingdom of eternia Gender: Posts: 110 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 402.13 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 402.13 Donate	i want to see a game where you can be link, and another hero.and also, a zelda rpg would be awesome!i would want it on the ds.i want to see a game with ganondorf as a boss, but then he's killed by the final boss and you have to fight a new character.

05-09-2008, 11:49 PM	#19
That Guy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 4,696 Thanks: 219 Thanked 100 Times in 75 Posts Points: 203.70 Bank: 3,070.67 Total Points: 3,274.37 Donate	Majora was a cthulu-equse demon god beyond the understanding of mortal men. Imprisoned in a mask, yes, but Cthulu is sleeping all the damn time so...

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ScottyMcGee Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: the far side of the moon Gender: Posts: 180 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Points: 8,840.17 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 8,840.17 Donate	When I first played Wind Waker I was excited about the mysterious bad guy who didn't show his face. I thought it was gonna be some evil swordsman/magician guy or....something. But then when I met him I was like, "Oh...it's....Ganondorf again." Same thing with TP. I thought Zant was going to be badass. In the previous clips you only see him opening his mouthpiece and a slimy, gooey mouth growling. But then he's just some lunatic bird-man hopping around. -___- I never got so far in Four Swords as to see Vaati, so I never saw the whole "emo" thing that's going around. There was a slight rumor that one could play as Zelda in TP, since there was a picture with her holding a sword. I thought a Zelda game where you can ACTUALLY be Zelda would be cool. Though, they have to be wary and not make COMPLETELY a Zelda-only game and turn it into something like Super Princess Peach.