Tales of Symphonia Theme [DEFINITE SPOILERS] - Page 7

Daos · 09-13-2004, 09:16 PM

The Silver one is wise.

ahuambachano · 09-13-2004, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Missing Link:
Mario is Missing?

The Dr. Mario Viruses?

LOL, no! Do SMB and PPG ring you a bell?

SilverWind · 09-14-2004, 01:05 AM

Power... puffs......... I call Bubbles. XD .... but I DOUBT, HIGHLY DOUBT that Wyborn would choose that as his theme. XD

Ancalag the Black · 09-14-2004, 01:59 AM

CLAMP theme?

09-14-2004, 02:33 PM

Today, at 80 hours and 24 minutes, I finally beat Tales of Symphonia. I gotta admit that the ending was a bit of a letdown, but the Grade Shop looks pretty cool (although I'm sure I won't be playing again for a long time!).

SilverWind · 09-14-2004, 03:01 PM

Letdown? ^_^ Howso? >_>() You didn't turn off the game before the credits ended, did you?

And if you don't know the name of the tree... well... Norse Mythology kinda points the way.

And ToP.

[spoilers]

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YGGDRASILL~!!!
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[end spoilers]

09-14-2004, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by Silvette, the Chosen One:
Letdown? ^_^ Howso? >_>() You didn't turn off the game before the credits ended, did you?

And if you don't know the name of the tree... well... Norse Mythology kinda points the way. And ToP.

[spoilers]

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YGGDRASILL~!!!
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[end spoilers]

Saw the ending all the way up until "Fin". Beleive me, I've beaten enough RPGs to know to never turn off the ending until I'm truly sure it's over...I've been known to wait 10 minutes or more when it finally ends "just to make sure". [img]smile.gif[/img]

***BEGIN SPOILERS***

I wasn't disappointed that Lloyd didn't shout out the name of the tree (like you said it's pretty obvious, but that still leaves it up to the imagination), just at the general brevity and the fact that all of the characters' new paths were predictable. There also wasn't one moment that really tugged at my heartstrings like the ending of FFVI, FFIX, or (most of them anyway) Chrono Trigger. I actually think doing all of those sidequests (instead of going straight to the ending) might've hurt as well, since I wasn't quite as hyped up for it (and Mithos was a pushover) when I finally beat it.

I'm not saying it was bad by any means, just didn't live up to the rest of the experience.

***END SPOILERS***

Deity Link · 09-14-2004, 07:44 PM

Basicly my whole post is a spoiler so

SPOILER !!!!!!!GO AWAY IF YOU FEAR RUINING YOUR GAME!!!!!!

Ok well I can only guess the tree's name is "symphonia" cause the name never comes up in the game. If not why is the game called "tales of symphonia" and then never mention the word symphnia?

Also i feel really bad now... I got Kratos instead of zelos.... and.... When i found out that in doing so it REALLY made him betray me that was sad. then honestly i never thought i was ganna kill him when i battled him. i though injured or something but kill? no i never saw that one coming. (PS thanks silv for the helpful hint on getting kratos. The people on gamefaqs are total idiots.)

Also! i have hear of tales of phantasia before. never seen it. What system is it out for and can someone give me some non-spoiler plot basics? And does it connect to Tales of Symphonia? (the plot i mean. do the two games relate in anyway?)

09-14-2004, 07:49 PM

Believe it or not, "Symphonia" was actually the very first thing I thought of too. That's why I said that Lloyd not saying it left it open to the imagination. [img]smile.gif[/img]

The Missing Link · 09-14-2004, 08:58 PM

<SPOILER>

I think that the ending is a little nicer if you don't pick Kratos. Even though you do get to learn a bit more about the plot, they take away a few of those really touching scenes, like the night before Lloyd goes to face Kratos in battle. Being able to choose who is there with you (indirectly) is really nice. *cough* SHEENA *cough*

</SPOILER>

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"Carpe Gaium Domesticum!" (Seize the Cucco!)
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SilverWind · 09-14-2004, 09:25 PM

SPOILER!

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I disagree... as the various Kratos and Lloyd conversation moments (FATHER SON BONDING!!!!) more than make up for the night in Hiemdall. X3 Everything is so much more explained about the game, too, including a lot of things you wouldn't know about Lloyd, Kratos, Noishe, Mithos... ANNA... really, the plot becomes more Lloyd and Kratos centric, and I love it. Scenes only available with Kratos include... Dialogue in Luin concerning Anna, dialogue in Heimdall conserning Kratos helping to get the Mana Leaf Herb, dialogue at night in Triet again, and really, Kratos' Pendant is the most significant thing Lloyd gets from the night in Flanoir. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Do you want a picture of your mom and dad --who you don't remember clearly, but have influenced your entire life-- and you as a kid? Or do you want a dinky snow hare, or nothing at all? (Okay, the Chosen's Orb is kinda cool, leading to my point that the only point I'd not get Kratos is to get Zelos as the feature character.) Oh, oh, and the "Childhood Memories" conversation, where you learn that Lloyd faintly remembered sitting on his dad's shoulders and watching the stars together with him... and how, because of that, astronomy was one of the only things he studied seriously... And Kratos gets his Dad title... *eyes tear up*

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(SPOILERS END)

Daos · 09-14-2004, 09:43 PM

It's still a toss up between going for the Sheena "ending" or Kratos next for me.

SilverWind · 09-14-2004, 10:28 PM

(SPOILER)

Might I suggest, then, that you save before Flanoir, play out Sheena's route (and save on a different file) and then load the past save game to get Kratos? The reason in that order, is because you *can't* miss the scenes with the main focal character when it's anyone else but Kratos... you can speed through the Tower and etc all the way to the ending fairly quickly, and you don't really need to pick up anything along the way. Then Kratos, because you need to get the extra scenes, which takes a little bit more sidequest work. ^_^

(SPOILER)

ocarinagirl · 09-19-2004, 09:55 PM

Hmmm....I have a question...

*possible spoiler*

So, does Noishe ever evolve into the last Protozoan stage of life? *cough*thehumanthathuntsdownevil*cough*

Because that would be super cool.

OcarinaMan · 09-19-2004, 10:32 PM

I thought the tree was named, "Lloyd, Jr."...

The Missing Link · 09-19-2004, 10:40 PM

^^ No.

^ No.

"There are some who call me... Link?"

"Carpe Gaium Domesticum!" (Seize the Cucco!)
Zelda: The Grand Adventures | Triforce MUCK
ザ行方不明リンク
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OcarinaMan · 09-19-2004, 10:46 PM

Anyways, I made it to the Tethe'alla Tower of Salvation. Something tells me it isn't the end, though, based on the fact that I've barely even started the second disc.

ocarinagirl · 09-19-2004, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MoveOnTML.org:
^^ No.

Aw, nerts.

Gamer Chris · 09-19-2004, 11:40 PM

[spoilers]

Yeah, first thing I thought of was "Symphonia". Why did they even call the game Tales of Symphonia when there is no mention of symphonia in the slightest bit?

Anyway, I later found out it was Yggdrassil. That doesn't make sense to me either, why would Lloyd name it after the evil dude of the game? :/

[/spoilers]

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~Gamer Chris

SilverWind · 09-20-2004, 01:13 AM

Obi-Two, the second disc is much shorter than the first. Sidequests make the second one a bit longer than it is plotwise, though.

(SPOILERS)

Why name it Yggdrasill? Because, even though Mithos' means were wrong, he had good ends in mind (note: a world without discrimination). And given the fact he was a hero once, trying to end the Great War (well, and ending it). And to me, given his past (being dispised by everyone, then to have the only one protecting him killed off and catching you in a dilemna of saving her or the world... X_X then to have your remaining friends leave you..repeatedly...) you have to feel some sympathy for him. It's a hope for a world where Mithos' ideals can come true, without the way he strived to achieve them.

...Okay, if you're still unsatisfied with that, then it's also because Martel's last name is Yggdrasill and she's a great gal. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Zat okay? XD

(END SPOILERS)

09-13-2004, 09:16 PM	#121
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09-14-2004, 01:05 AM	#123
SilverWind Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Looking up at the stars... Posts: 8,225 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Points: 13,954.24 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 14,454.24 Donate	Power... puffs......... I call Bubbles. XD .... but I DOUBT, HIGHLY DOUBT that Wyborn would choose that as his theme. XD

09-14-2004, 01:59 AM	#124
Ancalag the Black Junior Member Join Date: May 2000 Posts: 301 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 5,262.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 5,762.00 Donate	CLAMP theme?

09-14-2004, 02:33 PM	#125
Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 8,247.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 8,747.00 Donate	Today, at 80 hours and 24 minutes, I finally beat Tales of Symphonia. I gotta admit that the ending was a bit of a letdown, but the Grade Shop looks pretty cool (although I'm sure I won't be playing again for a long time!).

09-14-2004, 03:01 PM	#126
SilverWind Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Looking up at the stars... Posts: 8,225 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Points: 13,954.24 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 14,454.24 Donate	Letdown? ^_^ Howso? >_>() You didn't turn off the game before the credits ended, did you? And if you don't know the name of the tree... well... Norse Mythology kinda points the way. And ToP. [spoilers] . . YGGDRASILL~!!! . . [end spoilers]

09-14-2004, 07:44 PM	#128
Deity Link Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: USA maryland Posts: 908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 2,395.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 2,895.00 Donate	Basicly my whole post is a spoiler so SPOILER !!!!!!!GO AWAY IF YOU FEAR RUINING YOUR GAME!!!!!! Ok well I can only guess the tree's name is "symphonia" cause the name never comes up in the game. If not why is the game called "tales of symphonia" and then never mention the word symphnia? Also i feel really bad now... I got Kratos instead of zelos.... and.... When i found out that in doing so it REALLY made him betray me that was sad. then honestly i never thought i was ganna kill him when i battled him. i though injured or something but kill? no i never saw that one coming. (PS thanks silv for the helpful hint on getting kratos. The people on gamefaqs are total idiots.) Also! i have hear of tales of phantasia before. never seen it. What system is it out for and can someone give me some non-spoiler plot basics? And does it connect to Tales of Symphonia? (the plot i mean. do the two games relate in anyway?)

09-14-2004, 07:49 PM	#129
Banned Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 8,247.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 8,747.00 Donate	Believe it or not, "Symphonia" was actually the very first thing I thought of too. That's why I said that Lloyd not saying it left it open to the imagination. [img]smile.gif[/img]

09-14-2004, 08:58 PM	#130
The Missing Link Professional Lurker Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Hyrule, Washington, US Gender: Posts: 15,753 Thanks: 97 Thanked 317 Times in 215 Posts Points: 16,079.15 Bank: 112,864.19 Total Points: 128,943.34 Donate	<SPOILER> I think that the ending is a little nicer if you don't pick Kratos. Even though you do get to learn a bit more about the plot, they take away a few of those really touching scenes, like the night before Lloyd goes to face Kratos in battle. Being able to choose who is there with you (indirectly) is really nice. cough SHEENA cough </SPOILER> "There are some who call me... Link?" "Carpe Gaium Domesticum!" (Seize the Cucco!) Zelda: The Grand Adventures \| Triforce MUCK ザ行方不明リンク悪いユウモアの賢人

09-14-2004, 09:25 PM	#131
SilverWind Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Looking up at the stars... Posts: 8,225 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Points: 13,954.24 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 14,454.24 Donate	SPOILER! . . I disagree... as the various Kratos and Lloyd conversation moments (FATHER SON BONDING!!!!) more than make up for the night in Hiemdall. X3 Everything is so much more explained about the game, too, including a lot of things you wouldn't know about Lloyd, Kratos, Noishe, Mithos... ANNA... really, the plot becomes more Lloyd and Kratos centric, and I love it. Scenes only available with Kratos include... Dialogue in Luin concerning Anna, dialogue in Heimdall conserning Kratos helping to get the Mana Leaf Herb, dialogue at night in Triet again, and really, Kratos' Pendant is the most significant thing Lloyd gets from the night in Flanoir. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Do you want a picture of your mom and dad --who you don't remember clearly, but have influenced your entire life-- and you as a kid? Or do you want a dinky snow hare, or nothing at all? (Okay, the Chosen's Orb is kinda cool, leading to my point that the only point I'd not get Kratos is to get Zelos as the feature character.) Oh, oh, and the "Childhood Memories" conversation, where you learn that Lloyd faintly remembered sitting on his dad's shoulders and watching the stars together with him... and how, because of that, astronomy was one of the only things he studied seriously... And Kratos gets his Dad title... eyes tear up . . (SPOILERS END)

09-14-2004, 09:43 PM	#132
Daos Banned Forum Mod Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Earth Gender: Posts: 5,057 Thanks: 63 Thanked 141 Times in 103 Posts Points: 34,350.41 Bank: 197,555.86 Total Points: 231,906.27 Donate	It's still a toss up between going for the Sheena "ending" or Kratos next for me.

09-14-2004, 10:28 PM	#133
SilverWind Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Looking up at the stars... Posts: 8,225 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Points: 13,954.24 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 14,454.24 Donate	(SPOILER) Might I suggest, then, that you save before Flanoir, play out Sheena's route (and save on a different file) and then load the past save game to get Kratos? The reason in that order, is because you can't miss the scenes with the main focal character when it's anyone else but Kratos... you can speed through the Tower and etc all the way to the ending fairly quickly, and you don't really need to pick up anything along the way. Then Kratos, because you need to get the extra scenes, which takes a little bit more sidequest work. ^_^ (SPOILER)

09-19-2004, 09:55 PM	#134
ocarinagirl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ehhh? What? Where am I?! Gender: Posts: 3,010 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 8,668.83 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 9,168.83 Donate	Hmmm....I have a question... possible spoiler So, does Noishe ever evolve into the last Protozoan stage of life? coughthehumanthathuntsdownevilcough Because that would be super cool.

09-19-2004, 10:32 PM	#135
OcarinaMan Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ikana Castle Posts: 2,481 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Points: 9,460.77 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 9,960.77 Donate	I thought the tree was named, "Lloyd, Jr."...

09-19-2004, 10:40 PM	#136
The Missing Link Professional Lurker Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Hyrule, Washington, US Gender: Posts: 15,753 Thanks: 97 Thanked 317 Times in 215 Posts Points: 16,079.15 Bank: 112,864.19 Total Points: 128,943.34 Donate	^^ No. ^ No. "There are some who call me... Link?" "Carpe Gaium Domesticum!" (Seize the Cucco!) Zelda: The Grand Adventures \| Triforce MUCK ザ行方不明リンク悪いユウモアの賢人

09-19-2004, 10:46 PM	#137
OcarinaMan Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ikana Castle Posts: 2,481 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Points: 9,460.77 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 9,960.77 Donate	Anyways, I made it to the Tethe'alla Tower of Salvation. Something tells me it isn't the end, though, based on the fact that I've barely even started the second disc.

09-19-2004, 11:40 PM	#139
Gamer Chris Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Long Island, New York. Posts: 4,534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,770.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 2,270.00 Donate	[spoilers] Yeah, first thing I thought of was "Symphonia". Why did they even call the game Tales of Symphonia when there is no mention of symphonia in the slightest bit? Anyway, I later found out it was Yggdrassil. That doesn't make sense to me either, why would Lloyd name it after the evil dude of the game? :/ [/spoilers] --------------------------------- ~Gamer Chris

09-20-2004, 01:13 AM	#140
SilverWind Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Looking up at the stars... Posts: 8,225 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Points: 13,954.24 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 14,454.24 Donate	Obi-Two, the second disc is much shorter than the first. Sidequests make the second one a bit longer than it is plotwise, though. (SPOILERS) Why name it Yggdrasill? Because, even though Mithos' means were wrong, he had good ends in mind (note: a world without discrimination). And given the fact he was a hero once, trying to end the Great War (well, and ending it). And to me, given his past (being dispised by everyone, then to have the only one protecting him killed off and catching you in a dilemna of saving her or the world... X_X then to have your remaining friends leave you..repeatedly...) you have to feel some sympathy for him. It's a hope for a world where Mithos' ideals can come true, without the way he strived to achieve them. ...Okay, if you're still unsatisfied with that, then it's also because Martel's last name is Yggdrasill and she's a great gal. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Zat okay? XD (END SPOILERS)