Who in here would like to see Dark Link play as the main bad guy in a new Zelda? - Page 2 - VGF

GRENTLEMEN · 06-29-2005, 01:17 PM

Don't call someone something you don't even know how to spell.

I dislike the Oracles and Majora's Mask for the same reason that I'd like something different: Reused graphics, characters, puzzles, and themes. The Oracles were more like celebrated rom-hacks of Link's Awakening, with some random characters from other games tossed in for content. Majora's Mask is in itself going to be a poor game to me because it depends on its predecessor's engine and presentation, which I was very disappointed with. I had no problem with the ocean exploration of Wind Waker. The new ideas like the ghost ship, the new items. Honestly, I think in the temples and day/night cycles, WW did Ocarina better than Ocarina. Wind Waker just lacked length and climactic plot. The whole plot is in itself anticlimactic; With an ancient civilization no one would otherwise know or care about being forever flooded and lost to time, when it was assumed so beforehand. The exploration was finally up to par, but the game desperately needed more of it, and a worthwile story. At the end, you hardly feel like Link was the hero of anything but his sister.

Another tradition these games share that I have no desire to experience yet again is the fetch-questing that seems to go on and on. Get this for these people. Wah, I need a *insert item here*.

Yes, I thought the kangaroo was retarded. Perhaps I've got high standards. Don't go pointing fingers when you don't even know why I don't like something.

[ June 29, 2005, 01:21 PM: Message edited by: Blackbeard the Jew ]

N Kong · 06-29-2005, 03:49 PM

I don't want dark Link to be a boss.I want him to be a playable character so I can finally murder Link!

Koga · 06-29-2005, 08:02 PM

I don't point fingers randomly at you, AI. I just know you don't like anything post-LA.

Darth_Flava · 06-29-2005, 11:27 PM

I wasn't trying to imply anything by my statement Dekugorozor. I was merely saying based on what I saw in the video that I wouldn't want any DBZ content in a Zelda game. I wasn't trying to put any words in your mouth. If I didn't write my statement clearly I'm sorry. I try not to offend people on the forums. Anyway I personally thought that MM was a good game I thought they did kind of took a risk with the 3 day system in the game. I hope that the story in Twilight Princess is as dark as it seems. I really haven't seen a dark theme in a Zelda game since A Link to the Past. What would really be interesting in the new game is a kind of open system like in Morrowind. Although I still would like to see Dark Link play a far more major role in the games. Thumbs up to playing as Dark Link to get revenge on Link.

GRENTLEMEN · 06-30-2005, 03:27 AM

I love Four Swords Adventure, and it's the most recent GCN Zelda game.

Koga · 06-30-2005, 06:21 AM

Oh yeah, forgot about that one. Though technically Minish Cap is the most recent one.

Leinad · 06-30-2005, 09:39 AM

A.I you are even if I didn't spell it properly as it is a complex word and I'm only thirteen [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Oh and don't worry Flava you didn't I was just pointing it out

[ June 30, 2005, 09:41 AM: Message edited by: dekugorozor ]

Beam Yosho the Drunkard · 06-30-2005, 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by dekugorozor:
A.I you are even if I didn't spell it properly as it is a complex word and I'm only thirteen [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Oh and don't worry Flava you didn't I was just pointing it out

...It's "hypocrite." Now you know.

Leinad · 06-30-2005, 09:52 AM

to tell you the truth I just did a spellcheck on it...

Thank you though! [img]smile.gif[/img]

GRENTLEMEN · 06-30-2005, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by The March Of The Black Queen:
Oh yeah, forgot about that one. Though technically Minish Cap is the most recent one.

I said GCN game.

And if you're going to insist on trying to irritate me, dekugorozor, I suggest you not ask for any favors any time soon. Read a whole post before you bother replying to the first sentence.

Erdawn Il Deus · 06-30-2005, 02:17 PM

I'm backing up AI on this. I want a new villain that isn't one of Ganon's henchmen. What are we supposed to believe, Ganon is the only evil person in the world? Gods! Although I did like WW lots, Majora's Mask and the Oracle games - especially the oracle games - blew chunks for reasons already stated.

Looking forward to Twilight Princess.

Leinad · 06-30-2005, 02:30 PM

I don't know where, but I'm pretty sure I heard that Ganon is in twilight princess, I'm sorry

but yes it would be better if the triforce of power had been taken by someone else for once,
even if I do like ganon as a villain.

Leinad · 06-30-2005, 03:08 PM

Quote:

And if you're going to insist on trying to irritate me, dekugorozor, I suggest you not ask for any favors any time soon. Read a whole post before you bother replying to the first sentence.

Oh don't worry I don't need to try or need any favours whatsoever.

one more thing I DID READ IT ALL it's just the first sentence was directly aimed at me therefore I answered to that bit and that bit only

also I do know I was the last post but my cousin encouraged me to get on your nerves, again

[ June 30, 2005, 03:10 PM: Message edited by: dekugorozor ]

Darth_Flava · 06-30-2005, 06:24 PM

I do wish that Nintendo makes a new villian in Twilight Princess. But, I still like Ganon and Dark Link. I would like to see something along the lines of Wild Arms 2 in which the main villian was thought to have been but is actually inside the main character (some of you may know what I am talking about). There was actually a monster living inside the main character and it didn't show himself until almost the very end of the game. That would be a nice element to add to the Zelda series.

OcarinaMan · 06-30-2005, 07:42 PM

Dark Link is over-rated. I personally liked MM, and since transformation and stuff is in this game, too, maybe it'll be a Majora-esque game with an improved engine, which clearly has potential. A good final boss for this game could be Midna. It's been confirmed that she's bad and is only teaming up with Link to fight a greater enemy. The possibilities of a betrayal could potentially be pretty dramatic. I'd like to see a new main villain, or at least a villain that hasn't been used often (i.e. Agahnim or Majora).

But then again, I remember reading that Ganondorf had been confirmed as the game's villain.

Beam Yosho the Drunkard · 06-30-2005, 07:52 PM

^No, NEVER re-use Majora. He's kind of a one-time villan. And I'm hoping they keep it that way, unless they really want to milk him out that badly.

Cravdraa · 06-30-2005, 08:01 PM

The only thing I could possibly see Majora in would be a backstory to the events in MM. There was a lot of history behind that game and I'd actually be kinda interested in it. Still, that wouldn't be a zelda game so much as a spin-off.

I agree, they really need some new characters. Ganondorf is getting old. Dark Link? The evil twin thing has been done to death in every other series I can think of. Let it die and come up with something new.

GRENTLEMEN · 06-30-2005, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by dekugorozor:
also I do know I was the last post but my cousin encouraged me to get on your nerves, again

I'm honestly not bothered by much, but you have done a swell job of convincing me you might be an idiot.

Dark Link is overplayed, and was unoriginal as a story element before his first appearance.

This bit about Ganon being in the new game could be possibly a good thing, like a second half to the imprisoning war, making OoT the first half.

Betrayal is a very strong theme, and I do think it could go over well in the Zelda series.

Darth_Flava · 06-30-2005, 10:49 PM

I do think betrayal would work out in a Zelda game. But tell me, how is Dark Link overrated. He barely made any appearences. An overrated character would be Link, though he is part of the whole story. I wouldn't mind that being the way the Zelda series heads, the end of Links family and any generations to come and a new hero emerging to take over where Link failed.

GRENTLEMEN · 06-30-2005, 11:03 PM

I said overplayed. And I mean the evil-twin situation, as stated by Cravdraa, has been overdone so many times outside of Zelda, it doesn't matter if he's only been in 2 games out of however many. Hell, 2 is enough.

The legendary hero has the potential to appear every hundred years. Lttp canon. So far, he's always been named Link. That doesn't make him the same person.

06-29-2005, 01:17 PM	#21
GRENTLEMEN Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 15,831 Thanks: 449 Thanked 1,133 Times in 618 Posts Points: 4,733.37 Bank: 1,759,285.16 Total Points: 1,764,018.53 Donate	Don't call someone something you don't even know how to spell. I dislike the Oracles and Majora's Mask for the same reason that I'd like something different: Reused graphics, characters, puzzles, and themes. The Oracles were more like celebrated rom-hacks of Link's Awakening, with some random characters from other games tossed in for content. Majora's Mask is in itself going to be a poor game to me because it depends on its predecessor's engine and presentation, which I was very disappointed with. I had no problem with the ocean exploration of Wind Waker. The new ideas like the ghost ship, the new items. Honestly, I think in the temples and day/night cycles, WW did Ocarina better than Ocarina. Wind Waker just lacked length and climactic plot. The whole plot is in itself anticlimactic; With an ancient civilization no one would otherwise know or care about being forever flooded and lost to time, when it was assumed so beforehand. The exploration was finally up to par, but the game desperately needed more of it, and a worthwile story. At the end, you hardly feel like Link was the hero of anything but his sister. Another tradition these games share that I have no desire to experience yet again is the fetch-questing that seems to go on and on. Get this for these people. Wah, I need a insert item here. Yes, I thought the kangaroo was retarded. Perhaps I've got high standards. Don't go pointing fingers when you don't even know why I don't like something. [ June 29, 2005, 01:21 PM: Message edited by: Blackbeard the Jew ]

06-29-2005, 03:49 PM	#22
N Kong Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Location Gender: Posts: 985 Thanks: 7 Thanked 15 Times in 13 Posts Points: 841.73 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 841.73 Donate	I don't want dark Link to be a boss.I want him to be a playable character so I can finally murder Link!

06-29-2005, 08:02 PM	#23
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 177 Times in 119 Posts Points: 104,115.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 121,867.82 Donate	I don't point fingers randomly at you, AI. I just know you don't like anything post-LA.

06-29-2005, 11:27 PM	#24
Darth_Flava Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Points: 3,864.92 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 4,364.92 Donate	I wasn't trying to imply anything by my statement Dekugorozor. I was merely saying based on what I saw in the video that I wouldn't want any DBZ content in a Zelda game. I wasn't trying to put any words in your mouth. If I didn't write my statement clearly I'm sorry. I try not to offend people on the forums. Anyway I personally thought that MM was a good game I thought they did kind of took a risk with the 3 day system in the game. I hope that the story in Twilight Princess is as dark as it seems. I really haven't seen a dark theme in a Zelda game since A Link to the Past. What would really be interesting in the new game is a kind of open system like in Morrowind. Although I still would like to see Dark Link play a far more major role in the games. Thumbs up to playing as Dark Link to get revenge on Link.

06-30-2005, 03:27 AM	#25
GRENTLEMEN Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 15,831 Thanks: 449 Thanked 1,133 Times in 618 Posts Points: 4,733.37 Bank: 1,759,285.16 Total Points: 1,764,018.53 Donate	I love Four Swords Adventure, and it's the most recent GCN Zelda game.

06-30-2005, 06:21 AM	#26
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 177 Times in 119 Posts Points: 104,115.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 121,867.82 Donate	Oh yeah, forgot about that one. Though technically Minish Cap is the most recent one.

06-30-2005, 09:39 AM	#27
Leinad Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: right behind you, b*tch! Gender: Posts: 1,669 Thanks: 34 Thanked 34 Times in 31 Posts Points: 19,312.00 Bank: 0.80 Total Points: 19,312.80 Donate	A.I you are even if I didn't spell it properly as it is a complex word and I'm only thirteen [img]tongue.gif[/img] Oh and don't worry Flava you didn't I was just pointing it out [ June 30, 2005, 09:41 AM: Message edited by: dekugorozor ]

06-30-2005, 09:52 AM	#29
Leinad Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: right behind you, b*tch! Gender: Posts: 1,669 Thanks: 34 Thanked 34 Times in 31 Posts Points: 19,312.00 Bank: 0.80 Total Points: 19,312.80 Donate	to tell you the truth I just did a spellcheck on it... Thank you though! [img]smile.gif[/img]

06-30-2005, 02:17 PM	#31
Erdawn Il Deus Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Threading the jeweled thrones of earth under my sandalled feet Gender: Posts: 2,978 Thanks: 4 Thanked 45 Times in 39 Posts Points: 22,101.42 Bank: 714.12 Total Points: 22,815.54 Donate	I'm backing up AI on this. I want a new villain that isn't one of Ganon's henchmen. What are we supposed to believe, Ganon is the only evil person in the world? Gods! Although I did like WW lots, Majora's Mask and the Oracle games - especially the oracle games - blew chunks for reasons already stated. Looking forward to Twilight Princess.

06-30-2005, 02:30 PM	#32
Leinad Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: right behind you, b*tch! Gender: Posts: 1,669 Thanks: 34 Thanked 34 Times in 31 Posts Points: 19,312.00 Bank: 0.80 Total Points: 19,312.80 Donate	I don't know where, but I'm pretty sure I heard that Ganon is in twilight princess, I'm sorry but yes it would be better if the triforce of power had been taken by someone else for once, even if I do like ganon as a villain.

06-30-2005, 06:24 PM	#34
Darth_Flava Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Points: 3,864.92 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 4,364.92 Donate	I do wish that Nintendo makes a new villian in Twilight Princess. But, I still like Ganon and Dark Link. I would like to see something along the lines of Wild Arms 2 in which the main villian was thought to have been but is actually inside the main character (some of you may know what I am talking about). There was actually a monster living inside the main character and it didn't show himself until almost the very end of the game. That would be a nice element to add to the Zelda series.

06-30-2005, 07:42 PM	#35
OcarinaMan Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ikana Castle Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Points: 7,618.77 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 8,118.77 Donate	Dark Link is over-rated. I personally liked MM, and since transformation and stuff is in this game, too, maybe it'll be a Majora-esque game with an improved engine, which clearly has potential. A good final boss for this game could be Midna. It's been confirmed that she's bad and is only teaming up with Link to fight a greater enemy. The possibilities of a betrayal could potentially be pretty dramatic. I'd like to see a new main villain, or at least a villain that hasn't been used often (i.e. Agahnim or Majora). But then again, I remember reading that Ganondorf had been confirmed as the game's villain.

06-30-2005, 07:52 PM	#36
Beam Yosho the Drunkard Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The oversized rock of Hawaii. Gender: Posts: 5,665 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts Points: 22,305.39 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 22,805.39 Donate	^No, NEVER re-use Majora. He's kind of a one-time villan. And I'm hoping they keep it that way, unless they really want to milk him out that badly.

06-30-2005, 08:01 PM	#37
Cravdraa Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's round on the sides and high in the middle Gender: Posts: 5,566 Thanks: 49 Thanked 81 Times in 52 Posts Points: 29,972.40 Bank: 648,469.61 Total Points: 678,442.01 Donate	The only thing I could possibly see Majora in would be a backstory to the events in MM. There was a lot of history behind that game and I'd actually be kinda interested in it. Still, that wouldn't be a zelda game so much as a spin-off. I agree, they really need some new characters. Ganondorf is getting old. Dark Link? The evil twin thing has been done to death in every other series I can think of. Let it die and come up with something new.

06-30-2005, 10:49 PM	#39
Darth_Flava Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Points: 3,864.92 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 4,364.92 Donate	I do think betrayal would work out in a Zelda game. But tell me, how is Dark Link overrated. He barely made any appearences. An overrated character would be Link, though he is part of the whole story. I wouldn't mind that being the way the Zelda series heads, the end of Links family and any generations to come and a new hero emerging to take over where Link failed.

06-30-2005, 11:03 PM	#40
GRENTLEMEN Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 15,831 Thanks: 449 Thanked 1,133 Times in 618 Posts Points: 4,733.37 Bank: 1,759,285.16 Total Points: 1,764,018.53 Donate	I said overplayed. And I mean the evil-twin situation, as stated by Cravdraa, has been overdone so many times outside of Zelda, it doesn't matter if he's only been in 2 games out of however many. Hell, 2 is enough. The legendary hero has the potential to appear every hundred years. Lttp canon. So far, he's always been named Link. That doesn't make him the same person.