What do you call the big guy?

Dr. Furball · 03-09-2008, 10:06 PM

What name do you use to refer to the main antagionist of the series?
Most people I know refer to him as Ganondorf in his humanoid form, but Ganon in his evil warthog form. I call him Ganon in any form, just because it sounds cooler, in my opinion.

**Valigarmander** · 03-09-2008, 10:10 PM

Ganon.

Ganondorf is the human incarnation.

***Cosmonautical*** · 03-09-2008, 10:18 PM

^ That.

Ganondorf Dragmire is the full name of the Prince of Thieves. At some point in time, he became little more than a legend, as he was locked away in the Golden Land. People have a way of changing words and the names of things, and it became shortened to Ganon. An easier way of remembering it is just that whenever you see him in Pig/Boar/Monster form, he is known as Ganon. I think Windwaker is the only exception to this, where the game makers preferred to call him Ganon even as he is still in human form.

***Booyakasha*** · 03-09-2008, 11:41 PM

Here in the Zelda Forum, I'm the big guy. And they call me 'Boo'.

***Ace Mercury*** · 03-09-2008, 11:43 PM

I call him Ganondork, because he's a dork.

CuccoLady · 03-09-2008, 11:47 PM

I call him whatever you're supposed to call him. When referring to OoT, I call him Ganondorf as a human and Ganon as a boar thing. In WW, I call him Ganon. In MM and PH, I call him nonexistant.

**Crazyswordsman** · 03-09-2008, 11:48 PM

Dragmire. Because it's a lot more evil. -CSM

Darunia00 · 03-11-2008, 09:42 AM

As an aside, I've always found Ganondorf more threatening than Ganon. This is probably because menacing warthog beasts just aren't all that...menacing in real life. Plus, the 3D incarnations of Ganondorf have been pretty BA.

heh · 03-11-2008, 09:44 AM

i call him majora

***Marilink*** · 03-11-2008, 02:37 PM

Question: How do we know his last name is Dragmire?

***CaptHayfever*** · 03-11-2008, 04:01 PM

^Search your feelings; you know it to be true.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Erdawn Il Deus · 03-11-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Darunia00

As an aside, I've always found Ganondorf more threatening than Ganon. This is probably because menacing warthog beasts just aren't all that...menacing in real life. Plus, the 3D incarnations of Ganondorf have been pretty BA.

You know, I have the distinct impression that if a half-man half-boar was standing at your doorsteps you'd **** your pants so powerfully they'd fall down to your ankles.

Also, Mandrag Ganon was always my fav.

***Booyakasha*** · 03-11-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Horsehead XVI

Question: How do we know his last name is Dragmire?

NOA gave his full name as Ganondorf Dragmire in the US manual for LttP. I believe that's the only place it occurs. Whether it's canonical or not is debatable, I guess.

Erdawn Il Deus · 03-11-2008, 08:35 PM

You know, I'm going to ask here and now - why do people care about canononical? It's not like the Zelda series has ever been one through which sequential, historical plot has ever mattered outside the gimmick factor

Dr. Furball · 03-11-2008, 10:10 PM

I didn't know there was a difference until I discussed it with some friends the day after I made this thread. Perhaps I should rename it: 'Which name sounds better?'

***Booyakasha*** · 03-11-2008, 10:20 PM

^^Holy cow, I just had an awesome idea--everything is canon. 'Hyrulian War' is now an official part of the timeline. Yes.

Seriously, though, canon's mostly important to the big fans. You know, your weirdo purists and fanfic writers and such. I'm not one of them. I don't even like Zelda, to be honest. I mean, it's all right, but it's no 'Sneak King'...(JOKE).

***Cosmonautical*** · 03-12-2008, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Booyakasha

NOA gave his full name as Ganondorf Dragmire in the US manual for LttP. I believe that's the only place it occurs. Whether it's canonical or not is debatable, I guess.

It's entirely arguable that the older NoA has done a much better job elaborating on all of Nintendo's series for it to appeal to western audiences, rather than the current one which basically just forwards everything from Japan. Mario, for instance, was easily much more colorful and interesting in the early 90's. Now he's hollower than the olsen twins.

***Booyakasha*** · 03-12-2008, 09:29 AM

I haven't actually read a game manual in years, so I'm ill-equipped to comment.

Erdawn Il Deus · 03-12-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by McSARS DOUBLE SARS

It's entirely arguable that the older NoA has done a much better job elaborating on all of Nintendo's series for it to appeal to western audiences, rather than the current one which basically just forwards everything from Japan. Mario, for instance, was easily much more colorful and interesting in the early 90's. Now he's hollower than the olsen twins.

I still say that the plotline to LttP has thus far remained the most interesting, at least in backstory. Also, mention of Ganon touching the triforce with blood-drenched hands after slaughtering the entire Gerudo tribe? Yeah. Badass. Stupid Japanese.

***Cosmonautical*** · 03-12-2008, 02:11 PM

Entirely awesome backstory, indeed.

It was certainly more epic sounding than OoT turned out to be.

03-09-2008, 10:06 PM	#1
Dr. Furball Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mad Science Academy, 12th Floor Gender: Posts: 1,125 Thanks: 185 Thanked 97 Times in 60 Posts	What do you call the big guy? What name do you use to refer to the main antagionist of the series? Most people I know refer to him as Ganondorf in his humanoid form, but Ganon in his evil warthog form. I call him Ganon in any form, just because it sounds cooler, in my opinion.

03-09-2008, 10:10 PM	#2
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	Ganon. Ganondorf is the human incarnation.

03-09-2008, 10:18 PM	#3
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	^ That. Ganondorf Dragmire is the full name of the Prince of Thieves. At some point in time, he became little more than a legend, as he was locked away in the Golden Land. People have a way of changing words and the names of things, and it became shortened to Ganon. An easier way of remembering it is just that whenever you see him in Pig/Boar/Monster form, he is known as Ganon. I think Windwaker is the only exception to this, where the game makers preferred to call him Ganon even as he is still in human form.

03-09-2008, 11:41 PM	#4
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	Here in the Zelda Forum, I'm the big guy. And they call me 'Boo'.

03-09-2008, 11:43 PM	#5
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,275 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I call him Ganondork, because he's a dork.

03-09-2008, 11:47 PM	#6
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	I call him whatever you're supposed to call him. When referring to OoT, I call him Ganondorf as a human and Ganon as a boar thing. In WW, I call him Ganon. In MM and PH, I call him nonexistant.

03-09-2008, 11:48 PM	#7
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	Dragmire. Because it's a lot more evil. -CSM

03-11-2008, 09:42 AM	#8
Darunia00 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Boston Gender: Posts: 4,318 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	As an aside, I've always found Ganondorf more threatening than Ganon. This is probably because menacing warthog beasts just aren't all that...menacing in real life. Plus, the 3D incarnations of Ganondorf have been pretty BA.

03-11-2008, 09:44 AM	#9
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	i call him majora

03-11-2008, 02:37 PM	#10
*Marilink* Gotta catch 'em all! Supermod! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 29,118 Thanks: 2,535 Thanked 1,823 Times in 1,008 Posts	Question: How do we know his last name is Dragmire?

03-11-2008, 04:01 PM	#11
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	^Search your feelings; you know it to be true. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

03-11-2008, 08:35 PM	#14
Erdawn Il Deus Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Threading the jeweled thrones of earth under my sandalled feet Gender: Posts: 3,056 Thanks: 4 Thanked 47 Times in 41 Posts	You know, I'm going to ask here and now - why do people care about canononical? It's not like the Zelda series has ever been one through which sequential, historical plot has ever mattered outside the gimmick factor

03-11-2008, 10:10 PM	#15
Dr. Furball Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mad Science Academy, 12th Floor Gender: Posts: 1,125 Thanks: 185 Thanked 97 Times in 60 Posts	I didn't know there was a difference until I discussed it with some friends the day after I made this thread. Perhaps I should rename it: 'Which name sounds better?'

03-11-2008, 10:20 PM	#16
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	^^Holy cow, I just had an awesome idea--everything is canon. 'Hyrulian War' is now an official part of the timeline. Yes. Seriously, though, canon's mostly important to the big fans. You know, your weirdo purists and fanfic writers and such. I'm not one of them. I don't even like Zelda, to be honest. I mean, it's all right, but it's no 'Sneak King'...(JOKE).

03-12-2008, 09:29 AM	#18
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	I haven't actually read a game manual in years, so I'm ill-equipped to comment.

03-12-2008, 02:11 PM	#20
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Entirely awesome backstory, indeed. It was certainly more epic sounding than OoT turned out to be.