Best Zelda Villain?

VG_Addict · 06-18-2008, 10:37 PM

Who's the best Zelda villain?

Speed · 06-18-2008, 10:48 PM

Dark Link. I just love everything he represents, the Dark side of Link the bad things of Link, the inner struggle of being Stronger, Better more powerful then everyone else, and then being the Hero of Time, the savior of Hyrule. Then again I guess I could just be reading to deep into it.

Blake · 06-18-2008, 10:52 PM

It COULD have been Zant.. but oh well.

So thus it's Ganon.

Edit: Actually disregarding that one part of the game, I'm going to go with Zant since he was otherwise badass.

***Cosmonautical*** · 06-18-2008, 11:17 PM

Agahnim.

StarryPeach · 06-19-2008, 01:13 AM

Zant for the lulz. Seriously. XD

**X-3** · 06-19-2008, 04:28 AM

Ganon: The big bad guy. I like him, but he's getting kinda old...HEY GUYZ I'M BACK
Vaati: I haven't played any game he's in. He seems a bit...lesser to be honest.
Majora's Mask: My fav. Mysterious...cruel...leaves a lot of space open for fanfics.
Dark Link: The start of Nintendo's "dark version of hero" fetish...
Skull Kid: lol wut
Zant: Really cool with the, "bitch imma steal your dark powerz". But then he went all, "OH I JUST CAN'T WAIT TO BE KIIIIIIIING".

So, Majora. And Skull Kid was no villain. He was misguided. Like Princess Toadstooool...

MC Luigi · 06-27-2008, 02:43 PM

It's really a tie between Dark Link and Majora's Mask. Majora's Mask was amazing; Evil, mysterious, and dark.

And Dark Link? Refer to the first reply.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 06-27-2008, 07:03 PM

Vaati was pretty cool, I wanna see him again.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-27-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Serial Miller

Agahnim.

This. -CSM

I am nobody · 06-27-2008, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serial Miller

Agahnim.

This again.

Typhlame · 06-27-2008, 08:21 PM

NOT HIM

Speed · 07-22-2008, 10:02 PM

How did this get bumped?

Blake · 07-22-2008, 10:15 PM

When people vote it 'bumps' apparently.

***Cosmonautical*** · 07-25-2008, 11:16 AM

Still Agahnim. He accomplished more as a villain than most, and he had a fraction of their power. He turned the royal family itself out on the people, and captured every single descendant of the seven wisemen. Zelda herself had to telepathically plead for help to Link to stop herself from vanishing without any trace. He made Link a wanted criminal for kidnapping the Princess, and god knows what else.

I'd definitely say he was the better villain.

CuccoLady · 07-25-2008, 10:00 PM

I've now played enough of LttP to completely understand what everyone's raving about with Agahnim. He IS badass. However, I still say Majora's Mask because, even with Agahnim, it seems the most PURE EVIL of anyone. I don't know. It's not even human, it's practically an entity.... of pure evil and a want for destruction.

Typhlame · 07-25-2008, 10:04 PM

Vaati was pretty fun in MC.

**Valigarmander** · 07-25-2008, 10:04 PM

I was wondering where-a teh heck Agahnim was.

Wallmaster · 07-25-2008, 10:43 PM

It's interesting, so far no one has come out to say that they thought that Ganon was the best; but he's actually got the most votes, including mine.

If you want to argue about what a villain has accomplished, then think about it: Ganondorf (who is Ganon, just in human form) actually succeeded in conquering Hyrule in OoT. He was sittin' pretty until Link came from the past to mess things up for him.

And also, why do you think that all the other villains keep trying to bring him back? It's because he's so awesome. (Now, let's follow that sloppy train of logic down to its inevit.....)

Therefore: Ganon, FTW!

***Cosmonautical*** · 07-25-2008, 10:49 PM

He had the full power of the Triforce behind him, and he still didn't manage to turn the people on eachother. Subtlety wins the day when considering that Agahnim conquered Hyrule beyond all of Ganondorf's ability(in the hearts of the people), and without having to destroy it. He took the princess, he took the "sages", he took all of them and imprisoned them in the Dark World.

Wallmaster · 07-26-2008, 11:34 AM

Well, actually Ganon had, at his strongest, only two of the three parts of the Triforce. Link had the Triforce of Courage; if Ganon had had it, then he would have already won, or at least been about to win.

And when you think about it, Ganon had to manage with only one part of the Triforce in the beginning; he had to get the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda somehow.

Also, it's unfair to say that Ganon was only able to do what he did because of the power of the Triforce. In that case, Agahnim was only able to do what he did because of his sorcery. Strip that away and you've got nothing.

And it's also unfair to elevate Agahnim simply due to his methods. So he was able to turn the people against each other. From all appearances, Ganon wasn't exactly aiming for subtlety when he turned Hyrule into a barren wasteland and transformed the residents of Hyrule town into the walking dead. Ganon's aim did not seem to be to rule the land of Hyrule while it was intact and prosperous; his plans were to destroy everything he hated (which was just about everything) and transform Hyrule to his own liking.

View Poll Results: Best Zelda Villain?
Ganon	6	30.00%
Vaati	3	15.00%
Majora's Mask	5	25.00%
Dark Link	2	10.00%
Skull Kid	0	0%
Zant	4	20.00%
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06-18-2008, 10:37 PM	#1
VG_Addict Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In the Vicinity Gender: Posts: 3,973 Thanks: 36 Thanked 227 Times in 194 Posts Blog Entries: 2	Best Zelda Villain? Who's the best Zelda villain?

06-18-2008, 10:48 PM	#2
Speed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: If there's a bright center to the universe I'm on the planet it's farthest from Gender: Posts: 3,747 Thanks: 1,598 Thanked 320 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Dark Link. I just love everything he represents, the Dark side of Link the bad things of Link, the inner struggle of being Stronger, Better more powerful then everyone else, and then being the Hero of Time, the savior of Hyrule. Then again I guess I could just be reading to deep into it.

06-18-2008, 10:52 PM	#3
Blake Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: A generic place such as a house Gender: Posts: 4,628 Thanks: 1,489 Thanked 206 Times in 148 Posts	It COULD have been Zant.. but oh well. So thus it's Ganon. Edit: Actually disregarding that one part of the game, I'm going to go with Zant since he was otherwise badass.

06-18-2008, 11:17 PM	#4
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Agahnim.

06-19-2008, 01:13 AM	#5
StarryPeach Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere Gender: Posts: 7,639 Thanks: 771 Thanked 343 Times in 296 Posts	Zant for the lulz. Seriously. XD

06-19-2008, 04:28 AM	#6
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Ganon: The big bad guy. I like him, but he's getting kinda old...HEY GUYZ I'M BACK Vaati: I haven't played any game he's in. He seems a bit...lesser to be honest. Majora's Mask: My fav. Mysterious...cruel...leaves a lot of space open for fanfics. Dark Link: The start of Nintendo's "dark version of hero" fetish... Skull Kid: lol wut Zant: Really cool with the, "bitch imma steal your dark powerz". But then he went all, "OH I JUST CAN'T WAIT TO BE KIIIIIIIING". So, Majora. And Skull Kid was no villain. He was misguided. Like Princess Toadstooool...

06-27-2008, 02:43 PM	#7
MC Luigi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In YO FACE Gender: Posts: 1,033 Thanks: 41 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	It's really a tie between Dark Link and Majora's Mask. Majora's Mask was amazing; Evil, mysterious, and dark. And Dark Link? Refer to the first reply.

06-27-2008, 07:03 PM	#8
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Vaati was pretty cool, I wanna see him again.

06-27-2008, 08:21 PM	#11
Typhlame Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Probably eating. Gender: Posts: 4,284 Thanks: 709 Thanked 155 Times in 110 Posts	NOT HIM

07-22-2008, 10:02 PM	#12
Speed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: If there's a bright center to the universe I'm on the planet it's farthest from Gender: Posts: 3,747 Thanks: 1,598 Thanked 320 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1	How did this get bumped?

07-22-2008, 10:15 PM	#13
Blake Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: A generic place such as a house Gender: Posts: 4,628 Thanks: 1,489 Thanked 206 Times in 148 Posts	When people vote it 'bumps' apparently.

07-25-2008, 11:16 AM	#14
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Still Agahnim. He accomplished more as a villain than most, and he had a fraction of their power. He turned the royal family itself out on the people, and captured every single descendant of the seven wisemen. Zelda herself had to telepathically plead for help to Link to stop herself from vanishing without any trace. He made Link a wanted criminal for kidnapping the Princess, and god knows what else. I'd definitely say he was the better villain.

07-25-2008, 10:00 PM	#15
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	I've now played enough of LttP to completely understand what everyone's raving about with Agahnim. He IS badass. However, I still say Majora's Mask because, even with Agahnim, it seems the most PURE EVIL of anyone. I don't know. It's not even human, it's practically an entity.... of pure evil and a want for destruction.

07-25-2008, 10:04 PM	#16
Typhlame Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Probably eating. Gender: Posts: 4,284 Thanks: 709 Thanked 155 Times in 110 Posts	Vaati was pretty fun in MC.

07-25-2008, 10:04 PM	#17
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	I was wondering where-a teh heck Agahnim was.

07-25-2008, 10:43 PM	#18
Wallmaster Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Antelope Freeway Gender: Posts: 380 Thanks: 61 Thanked 51 Times in 44 Posts	It's interesting, so far no one has come out to say that they thought that Ganon was the best; but he's actually got the most votes, including mine. If you want to argue about what a villain has accomplished, then think about it: Ganondorf (who is Ganon, just in human form) actually succeeded in conquering Hyrule in OoT. He was sittin' pretty until Link came from the past to mess things up for him. And also, why do you think that all the other villains keep trying to bring him back? It's because he's so awesome. (Now, let's follow that sloppy train of logic down to its inevit.....) Therefore: Ganon, FTW!

07-25-2008, 10:49 PM	#19
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	He had the full power of the Triforce behind him, and he still didn't manage to turn the people on eachother. Subtlety wins the day when considering that Agahnim conquered Hyrule beyond all of Ganondorf's ability(in the hearts of the people), and without having to destroy it. He took the princess, he took the "sages", he took all of them and imprisoned them in the Dark World.

07-26-2008, 11:34 AM	#20
Wallmaster Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Antelope Freeway Gender: Posts: 380 Thanks: 61 Thanked 51 Times in 44 Posts	Well, actually Ganon had, at his strongest, only two of the three parts of the Triforce. Link had the Triforce of Courage; if Ganon had had it, then he would have already won, or at least been about to win. And when you think about it, Ganon had to manage with only one part of the Triforce in the beginning; he had to get the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda somehow. Also, it's unfair to say that Ganon was only able to do what he did because of the power of the Triforce. In that case, Agahnim was only able to do what he did because of his sorcery. Strip that away and you've got nothing. And it's also unfair to elevate Agahnim simply due to his methods. So he was able to turn the people against each other. From all appearances, Ganon wasn't exactly aiming for subtlety when he turned Hyrule into a barren wasteland and transformed the residents of Hyrule town into the walking dead. Ganon's aim did not seem to be to rule the land of Hyrule while it was intact and prosperous; his plans were to destroy everything he hated (which was just about everything) and transform Hyrule to his own liking.