This is called "overthinking it".

**Valigarmander** · 01-01-2009, 10:27 PM

So, I've been playing through OoT recently, and the other day I was presented with a most interesting realization. Here's what I posted on the matter in a different forum earlier:

Quote:

In Ocarina of Time, we're presented with the intricate way in which the land of Hyrule is supplied with freshwater. The water is produced within the Zora's Domain, and then flows down all of Hyrule's waterfalls and tributaries, even as far down as Lake Hylia. Now, in the Zora Kingdom, all of the land's water is produced in the sacred lake of the Zora's Fountain. From there it passes into the Zora's Domain by the royal throne, which is the permanent residence of King Zora.

In other words, all the water in Hyrule has passed under King Zora's ass and crotch.

Drink deep.

Irkenwarrior12 · 01-01-2009, 10:33 PM

But only after flowing out of a spring where a giant fish-god sleeps, eats, and uses the bathroom.

***Marilink*** · 01-01-2009, 10:47 PM

I'm sure the Zora King is very clean, though.

**X-3** · 01-01-2009, 10:51 PM

He probably has fish-servants wipe his ass.

I still wouldn't drink Hyrule's water, though.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 01-01-2009, 10:53 PM

If fish-butt is all you had to worry about in your water during the Medieval Ages, I'd think you'd be set.

Dizzy · 01-01-2009, 11:27 PM

Then again, you never actually see anyone drink the water, though.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 01-01-2009, 11:39 PM

If there's only one major source of fresh water, then Ganondorf is a retard. Just poison it, send the most powerful of minions to guard it and any other possible water sources, while bottling his own and becoming rich and powerful.

"Ganondorf's Crotch Flow brand bottled water! Mmm, fishy!" - Hyrule Ad

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 01-01-2009, 11:40 PM

He wanted to control the country, not cripple it.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 01-01-2009, 11:45 PM

What better way to control a country than to completely dominate their source of life? One iron fist in Hyrule's balls, another on his sword.

In exchange for water, the people would have to embrace Ganondorf as King and offer up Link and Zelda.

Hey, there's a game idea! LoZ + The Fugitive = Badass game.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 01-02-2009, 12:07 AM

There's three outcomes, in a general sense, to that scenario:

1. people can't afford the monopoly that Ganondorf has on the water and they die, the livestock dies, the country becomes an empty wasteland

2. people embrace Ganondorf and live under his dictatorship

3. they rebel and overthrow Ganondorf from sheer need; you can only push people so far before they are compelled to take what they need

Number 2 isn't even the most likely scenario, not least because there is rain and there are/should be wells available to the people. Besides, you can't effectively poison a large river like that, and for it to grow in size after it leaves the Zora's Domain, there have to be smaller rivers feeding into it further downstream. Just because they were too lazy to put them into the game doesn't mean it's a reasonable or accurate depiction of the landscape. XD

And this is ALL under the assumption that Hylians even drink water. They're not human; who's to say that's a realistic expectation in the first place?

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 01-02-2009, 12:29 AM

1. This is impossible as he would dole out enough for survival at a minimal price, even give it out to the poor and dying. Think of it as a utility bill.

2. YUP YUP

3. Then why do they need Link at all? Plus only teh Master sword can kill him (I think).

Like I said, wells and such = taken over/destroyed.

A magic poison could work well to combat ur logik.

My idea is assuming there are no other rivers so =P

And they have cups and wells so they DO drink. In WW there's a tavern!

ZeldaGirl · 01-02-2009, 12:38 AM

They subsist off of milk. Duh.

***Booyakasha*** · 01-02-2009, 12:38 AM

I think it's quite clear that, by sitting in the Zora River, King Zora is tainting the water supply. (*rimshot*)

Robotazy · 01-02-2009, 12:39 AM

Didn't he do that by freezing the Zora Domain?

I mean, come on.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 01-02-2009, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeldaGirl

They subsist off of milk. Duh.

But animals and crops require water. Yeah.

ZeldaGirl · 01-02-2009, 01:29 AM

So? It's not like most animals drink clean, purified water anyway.

**X-3** · 01-02-2009, 01:30 AM

Is this a new beginning of Zelda theory-crafting?

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 01-02-2009, 01:33 AM

But they don't drink poisoned water. Even if they did, the animals would logically produce poisonous milk.

ZeldaGirl · 01-02-2009, 01:37 AM

Psh, you're talking about poison water. The rest of us are talking about King Zora's butt water.

**X-3** · 01-02-2009, 01:39 AM

Theory:

Those who drank King Zora's Butt-Water became interested in dark magicks, and then eventually became Twili.

It's possible, because in the OoT(Child)-TP timeline, there is no flood, so more people drink the water.

01-02-2009, 12:29 AM	#11
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I REALLY DEBATE A LOT! 1. This is impossible as he would dole out enough for survival at a minimal price, even give it out to the poor and dying. Think of it as a utility bill. 2. YUP YUP 3. Then why do they need Link at all? Plus only teh Master sword can kill him (I think). Like I said, wells and such = taken over/destroyed. A magic poison could work well to combat ur logik. My idea is assuming there are no other rivers so =P And they have cups and wells so they DO drink. In WW there's a tavern!

01-01-2009, 10:33 PM	#2
Irkenwarrior12 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: California Gender: Posts: 1,159 Thanks: 26 Thanked 26 Times in 20 Posts	But only after flowing out of a spring where a giant fish-god sleeps, eats, and uses the bathroom.

01-01-2009, 10:47 PM	#3
*Marilink* Gotta catch 'em all! Supermod! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 29,118 Thanks: 2,535 Thanked 1,823 Times in 1,008 Posts	I'm sure the Zora King is very clean, though.

01-01-2009, 10:51 PM	#4
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	He probably has fish-servants wipe his ass. I still wouldn't drink Hyrule's water, though.

01-01-2009, 10:53 PM	#5
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	If fish-butt is all you had to worry about in your water during the Medieval Ages, I'd think you'd be set.

01-01-2009, 11:27 PM	#6
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,162 Times in 805 Posts Blog Entries: 116	Then again, you never actually see anyone drink the water, though.

01-01-2009, 11:39 PM	#7
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	If there's only one major source of fresh water, then Ganondorf is a retard. Just poison it, send the most powerful of minions to guard it and any other possible water sources, while bottling his own and becoming rich and powerful. "Ganondorf's Crotch Flow brand bottled water! Mmm, fishy!" - Hyrule Ad

01-01-2009, 11:40 PM	#8
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	He wanted to control the country, not cripple it.

01-01-2009, 11:45 PM	#9
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	What better way to control a country than to completely dominate their source of life? One iron fist in Hyrule's balls, another on his sword. In exchange for water, the people would have to embrace Ganondorf as King and offer up Link and Zelda. Hey, there's a game idea! LoZ + The Fugitive = Badass game.

01-02-2009, 12:07 AM	#10
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	There's three outcomes, in a general sense, to that scenario: 1. people can't afford the monopoly that Ganondorf has on the water and they die, the livestock dies, the country becomes an empty wasteland 2. people embrace Ganondorf and live under his dictatorship 3. they rebel and overthrow Ganondorf from sheer need; you can only push people so far before they are compelled to take what they need Number 2 isn't even the most likely scenario, not least because there is rain and there are/should be wells available to the people. Besides, you can't effectively poison a large river like that, and for it to grow in size after it leaves the Zora's Domain, there have to be smaller rivers feeding into it further downstream. Just because they were too lazy to put them into the game doesn't mean it's a reasonable or accurate depiction of the landscape. XD And this is ALL under the assumption that Hylians even drink water. They're not human; who's to say that's a realistic expectation in the first place?

01-02-2009, 12:38 AM	#12
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	They subsist off of milk. Duh.

01-02-2009, 12:38 AM	#13
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	I think it's quite clear that, by sitting in the Zora River, King Zora is tainting the water supply. (rimshot)

01-02-2009, 12:39 AM	#14
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	Didn't he do that by freezing the Zora Domain? I mean, come on.

01-02-2009, 01:29 AM	#16
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	So? It's not like most animals drink clean, purified water anyway.

01-02-2009, 01:30 AM	#17
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Is this a new beginning of Zelda theory-crafting?

01-02-2009, 01:33 AM	#18
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	But they don't drink poisoned water. Even if they did, the animals would logically produce poisonous milk.

01-02-2009, 01:37 AM	#19
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	Psh, you're talking about poison water. The rest of us are talking about King Zora's butt water.

01-02-2009, 01:39 AM	#20
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Theory: Those who drank King Zora's Butt-Water became interested in dark magicks, and then eventually became Twili. It's possible, because in the OoT(Child)-TP timeline, there is no flood, so more people drink the water.