Majora's Mask: Better than OoT?

Dizzy · 01-11-2009, 08:25 PM

I think it's about the same in terms of enjoyment.

***Booyakasha*** · 01-11-2009, 08:34 PM

...hhhhhh.

**Valigarmander** · 01-11-2009, 09:09 PM

I'd say each game is different enough that it'd be difficult to compare, and each has it's own strengths and weaknesses.

If I had to score them, I'd give them about the same overall.

Speed · 01-11-2009, 09:15 PM

MM > OOT by a slight margin.

MM is a deeper game IMO, the plot is darker and the Goron/Zora/Deku thing allows alot of new Puzzles.

Not to mention it's hard to find a truly useless NPC, Every blob of Pixels has a life and a story and a schedule.

In all honesty...I may prefer MM more then I remember...

*Goes to play again*

Satsy · 01-12-2009, 04:31 AM

I don't know if saying "worse or better" is really the appropriate debate between these two. In terms of mechanics, MM did a pretty sweet job, and on plot, it delved into a realm not typical of the series, which was quite nice since OoT did feel a little like a LttP ripoff.

But, on that same leg, OoT could be played at a much more relaxed pace than MM. The 3 day system meant you were constantly watching to ensure you didn't run out of time and destroy the Earth in a ball of fire. OoT allowed you to take things slowly whenever, because there was no time limit unless you were doing a specific task. And OoT's system wasn't really flawed itself, it wasn't like playing the game was a total chore. I find myself actually getting well into OoT more than I can with MM.

But, even if I can't get into MM all that well, I appreciate the levels it went to. It's a sound game, regardless of my attention span.

Bomby · 01-12-2009, 08:33 AM

If you take out the actual gameplay, Majora's Mask is much better than OoT. Majora's Mask had better characters and cut-scenes, but that's not why I play video games. OoT was much more accessible, and the gameplay was more engrossing.

It simply comes down to this: I didn't like the design of the dungeons. I did like the addition of the Bomber's Notebook, but it wasn't enough to make up for the dungeons.

Joker · 01-12-2009, 08:46 AM

I was not fond of having to worry about my time, sure you could slow it down and restart it but I don't like feeling rushed in my Zelda Games. I like to take enough time to look through and explore every nook and cranny....also I was dissapointed at how you could only be Omni Link for like the last 3 seconds of the game as that was how long it took me to kill majora with the mask on.

***Marilink*** · 01-12-2009, 02:34 PM

I love MM. I know there are a lot of people that don't, but I find it to be one of my favorite Zelda games. It took everything good about OoT and made it better.

Unfortunately, it also didn't fix OoT's flaws...which is why I prefer TP to both. And Link's Awakening the best of all.

Dizzy · 01-12-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Satsy

But, on that same leg, OoT could be played at a much more relaxed pace than MM. The 3 day system meant you were constantly watching to ensure you didn't run out of time and destroy the Earth in a ball of fire. OoT allowed you to take things slowly whenever, because there was no time limit unless you were doing a specific task. And OoT's system wasn't really flawed itself, it wasn't like playing the game was a total chore. I find myself actually getting well into OoT more than I can with MM.

On the other side of that argument, I actually liked the 3-day system of MM. It offered a sense of order missing from OoT, not to mention a challenge. Because certain things happened on certain days, you had to do things in a certain order. Unlike OoT, where it was "get around to it when you have the time".

Joker · 01-12-2009, 03:25 PM

^ I'm lazy like that so the get around to it when you have time proved very useful to me

***Booyakasha*** · 01-12-2009, 07:36 PM

MM bad. Boo hate MM.

CuccoLady · 01-12-2009, 08:46 PM

I love the fact that in this game the danger is actually IMMINENT. In OoT, Ganondorf was like 'k guys I am evil but you don't really see anything happening so just save the world when you have time'

In MM it's like

HOLY CRAP MOON FALLING SAVE WORLD RUN RUN RUN.

Also the plot was unique, I loved Majora as a villain, and I adored the sidequesting and AWESOME character development.

MM>>>>OoT.

I still love OoT to pieces though

**Galefore** · 01-13-2009, 04:18 PM

Out of all of the big 3D Zeldas, I debate more over whether I liked WW better than TP, and vice versa. However, I will go ahead and admit that, as time went on and my tastes developed, I found the story of MM more compelling than the one in OoT.

Yet, there are two factors that stubbornly poke their head up and in my way and as such send my vote hurtling towards OoT:
1) Dungeons. I ****ing hate Snowhead, Woodfall is boring, Great Bay Temple was moderately entertaining but sort of bland, and as great as Stone Tower Temple was, it doesn't make up for it. This is a point that I have always found crucial, and I'm glad Bomby brought it up.
2) Nostalgia. OoT was one of the first video games I was ever fully immersed in. I loved it from the first PRESS START. I will admit that my tastes have changed, sure, and replays of the game have convinced me that I prefer WW and TP. However, in terms of N64 Zeldas, more memories were made on OoT than in MM. Also, Ganondorf is the coolest villain ever in my eyes. Old favorites never die.

I prefer MM's characters, locales (Termina is much more interesting than OoT's Hyrule, any day, and Clock Town > Market), and plot, absolutely. But it just wasn't as good a game as OoT.

heh · 01-13-2009, 04:29 PM

I didn't have a problem with the MM dungeons. Stone Tower is awesome, and the others are good enough. I suppose it might be slightly weaker in that area then in OOT maybe.

**Galefore** · 01-13-2009, 04:40 PM

Snowhead blows it all for me. I have no idea why I hate that place so much. I wish I could just skip the damn thing, as awesome as Goht is.

**X-3** · 01-13-2009, 05:47 PM

I like Majora's dungeons. Ocarina's just felt lame at times to me, for some reason.

Rainbow Dash · 01-13-2009, 06:07 PM

it's hard to compare them because they are so different

Luigiman7 · 01-13-2009, 06:11 PM

I just can't get used to the "3-day" cycle. It's annoying.

I pick other - Red Velvet cake.

Chaos Deviot · 01-14-2009, 06:18 PM

At first I couldn't get into the 3 day cycle. That changed, and I've loved it over Ocarina of Time for that and so many options. I admit that the Great Bay Temple was hard as hell if you have terrible timing like me, but other than that, was still fun. That boss was rediculous, though(even as Fierce Deity Link).

Still, I prefer MM over OoT any day, unless I'm feeling lazy, which is understand sometimes.

CuccoLady · 01-15-2009, 01:07 AM

Also, MM has a lot of challenges you can do.

Like srsly, try killing Grog without using the platform and without using the Zora electric shield. THERE'S a challenge. >_>

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01-11-2009, 08:25 PM	#1
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,162 Times in 805 Posts Blog Entries: 116	Majora's Mask: Better than OoT? I think it's about the same in terms of enjoyment.

01-13-2009, 06:11 PM	#18
Luigiman7 ヽ(◔ ◡ ◔)ノ.･ﾟ*｡･+☆ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ~)´◡｀(~ Gender: Posts: 17,605 Thanks: 1,134 Thanked 1,012 Times in 713 Posts Blog Entries: 8	I just can't get used to the "3-day" cycle. It's annoying. I pick other - Red Velvet cake. __________________ ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼ＷＯＮ’Ｔ　ＹＯＵ　ＢＥＣＯＭＥ　Ａ　ＭＡＧＩＣＡＬ　ＧＩＲＬ？

01-11-2009, 08:34 PM	#2
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	...hhhhhh.

01-11-2009, 09:09 PM	#3
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	I'd say each game is different enough that it'd be difficult to compare, and each has it's own strengths and weaknesses. If I had to score them, I'd give them about the same overall.

01-11-2009, 09:15 PM	#4
Speed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: If there's a bright center to the universe I'm on the planet it's farthest from Gender: Posts: 3,747 Thanks: 1,598 Thanked 320 Times in 224 Posts Blog Entries: 1	MM > OOT by a slight margin. MM is a deeper game IMO, the plot is darker and the Goron/Zora/Deku thing allows alot of new Puzzles. Not to mention it's hard to find a truly useless NPC, Every blob of Pixels has a life and a story and a schedule. In all honesty...I may prefer MM more then I remember... Goes to play again

01-12-2009, 04:31 AM	#5
Satsy Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Cold North of the Isles Gender: Posts: 50 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	I don't know if saying "worse or better" is really the appropriate debate between these two. In terms of mechanics, MM did a pretty sweet job, and on plot, it delved into a realm not typical of the series, which was quite nice since OoT did feel a little like a LttP ripoff. But, on that same leg, OoT could be played at a much more relaxed pace than MM. The 3 day system meant you were constantly watching to ensure you didn't run out of time and destroy the Earth in a ball of fire. OoT allowed you to take things slowly whenever, because there was no time limit unless you were doing a specific task. And OoT's system wasn't really flawed itself, it wasn't like playing the game was a total chore. I find myself actually getting well into OoT more than I can with MM. But, even if I can't get into MM all that well, I appreciate the levels it went to. It's a sound game, regardless of my attention span.

01-12-2009, 08:33 AM	#6
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	If you take out the actual gameplay, Majora's Mask is much better than OoT. Majora's Mask had better characters and cut-scenes, but that's not why I play video games. OoT was much more accessible, and the gameplay was more engrossing. It simply comes down to this: I didn't like the design of the dungeons. I did like the addition of the Bomber's Notebook, but it wasn't enough to make up for the dungeons.

01-12-2009, 08:46 AM	#7
Joker Lord of Vampires / God of Vengeance Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: The Planet of Eternal Darkness Gender: Posts: 11,117 Thanks: 3,273 Thanked 580 Times in 364 Posts Blog Entries: 6	I was not fond of having to worry about my time, sure you could slow it down and restart it but I don't like feeling rushed in my Zelda Games. I like to take enough time to look through and explore every nook and cranny....also I was dissapointed at how you could only be Omni Link for like the last 3 seconds of the game as that was how long it took me to kill majora with the mask on.

01-12-2009, 02:34 PM	#8
*Marilink* Gotta catch 'em all! Supermod! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 29,118 Thanks: 2,535 Thanked 1,823 Times in 1,008 Posts	I love MM. I know there are a lot of people that don't, but I find it to be one of my favorite Zelda games. It took everything good about OoT and made it better. Unfortunately, it also didn't fix OoT's flaws...which is why I prefer TP to both. And Link's Awakening the best of all.

01-12-2009, 03:25 PM	#10
Joker Lord of Vampires / God of Vengeance Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: The Planet of Eternal Darkness Gender: Posts: 11,117 Thanks: 3,273 Thanked 580 Times in 364 Posts Blog Entries: 6	^ I'm lazy like that so the get around to it when you have time proved very useful to me

01-12-2009, 07:36 PM	#11
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	MM bad. Boo hate MM.

01-12-2009, 08:46 PM	#12
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	I love the fact that in this game the danger is actually IMMINENT. In OoT, Ganondorf was like 'k guys I am evil but you don't really see anything happening so just save the world when you have time' In MM it's like HOLY CRAP MOON FALLING SAVE WORLD RUN RUN RUN. Also the plot was unique, I loved Majora as a villain, and I adored the sidequesting and AWESOME character development. MM>>>>OoT. I still love OoT to pieces though

01-13-2009, 04:18 PM	#13
Galefore EXPLOSION GOD OF MUSIC Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Some studio somewhere Gender: Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 1,361 Thanked 826 Times in 535 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Out of all of the big 3D Zeldas, I debate more over whether I liked WW better than TP, and vice versa. However, I will go ahead and admit that, as time went on and my tastes developed, I found the story of MM more compelling than the one in OoT. Yet, there are two factors that stubbornly poke their head up and in my way and as such send my vote hurtling towards OoT: 1) Dungeons. I ***ing hate Snowhead, Woodfall is boring, Great Bay Temple was moderately entertaining but sort of bland, and as great as Stone Tower Temple was, it doesn't make up for it. This is a point that I have always found crucial, and I'm glad Bomby brought it up. 2) Nostalgia. OoT was one of the first video games I was ever fully immersed in. I loved it from the first PRESS START. I will admit that my tastes have changed, sure, and replays of the game have convinced me that I prefer WW and TP. However, in terms of N64 Zeldas, more memories were made on OoT than in MM. Also, Ganondorf is the coolest villain ever in my eyes. Old favorites never die. I prefer MM's characters, locales (Termina is much more interesting than OoT's Hyrule, any day, and Clock Town > Market), and plot, absolutely. But it just wasn't as good a game* as OoT.

01-13-2009, 04:29 PM	#14
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	I didn't have a problem with the MM dungeons. Stone Tower is awesome, and the others are good enough. I suppose it might be slightly weaker in that area then in OOT maybe.

01-13-2009, 04:40 PM	#15
Galefore EXPLOSION GOD OF MUSIC Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Some studio somewhere Gender: Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 1,361 Thanked 826 Times in 535 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Snowhead blows it all for me. I have no idea why I hate that place so much. I wish I could just skip the damn thing, as awesome as Goht is.

01-13-2009, 05:47 PM	#16
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	I like Majora's dungeons. Ocarina's just felt lame at times to me, for some reason.

01-13-2009, 06:07 PM	#17
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,402 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	it's hard to compare them because they are so different

01-14-2009, 06:18 PM	#19
Chaos Deviot The Betrayer Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mt. Moon Gender: Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 171 Thanked 52 Times in 49 Posts Blog Entries: 1	At first I couldn't get into the 3 day cycle. That changed, and I've loved it over Ocarina of Time for that and so many options. I admit that the Great Bay Temple was hard as hell if you have terrible timing like me, but other than that, was still fun. That boss was rediculous, though(even as Fierce Deity Link). Still, I prefer MM over OoT any day, unless I'm feeling lazy, which is understand sometimes.

01-15-2009, 01:07 AM	#20
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	Also, MM has a lot of challenges you can do. Like srsly, try killing Grog without using the platform and without using the Zora electric shield. THERE'S a challenge. >_>