Worst Zelda Items?

***Cosmonautical*** · 06-05-2011, 01:12 PM

We're always having "your favorites" and so on. What do you guys think were the worst items?

I think I'll be daring and say the actual Wind Waker was crap. They should've stuck with the Ocarina format. Then again, at least it actually worked 100%, unlike that microphone system in the DS games.

**Valigarmander** · 06-05-2011, 01:19 PM

The Spinner. Outside of one awesome boss battle and collecting a few items, it's completely useless. Same with the Rod of Dominion, really.

And Deku Nuts. How often do you use those?

***Cosmonautical*** · 06-05-2011, 01:24 PM

Yeah, that's the sort of stuff I was thinking of.

Deku nuts are kind of like a much less effective boomerang. I was pretty glad they did away with them and just made them slingshot ammo.

***Marilink*** · 06-05-2011, 02:11 PM

The mole mitts are useful, but so friggin' stupid by design. Minish Cap items tend to be like that...the Gust Jar, the Cane of Pacci...

I never liked the fact that the power bracelet was an equippable item in the Gameboy Zeldas. It should have just been an upgrade, but I got used to it.

I wish the spinner was more useful, because I really do like the concept. It's the reason why Arbiter's Grounds is my second-favorite dungeon in that game.

I want to kill myself every time I'm forced to use the pan pipe **** in Spirit Tracks. In fact, I haven't even made it past the third dungeon in that game because I wasn't having any fun at all and that instrument was complete ass.

I agree, Deku Nuts are useless. Though I always used them against Ghoma...I only learned last month that people use the slingshot.

On a completely opposite note, I just re-started OoS and OoA again, and I've gotta say, they have probably my favorite item selection in all of Zeldadom. Two words: Magnet Gloves.

**X-3** · 06-05-2011, 03:22 PM

The Dominion Rod, partly because it literally breaks down right after you beat the Temple of Time.
The Spinner was cool but very underused, so it counts.
The Slingshot in TP gets the gold medal for uselessness. I struggle to remember it exists.

**Valigarmander** · 06-05-2011, 03:44 PM

Yeah, the Slingshot kind of sucked in every game it was in.

1-up Salesman · 06-05-2011, 05:31 PM

Yeah, the only time I've used the slingshot recently in TP was when I ran out of arrows. And yeah- I just got past the Yeti Mansion, and I haven't had to use the spinner much since I got out of the "Desert Temple."

***Marilink*** · 06-05-2011, 07:13 PM

^Arbiter's Grounds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valigarmander

Yeah, the Slingshot kind of sucked in every game it was in.

False: The Oracle games utilized the slingshot very very well.

**X-3** · 06-05-2011, 07:18 PM

Yeah, and guess what item wasn't in the Oracle games?

okay, the Hyper Slingshot and the Seed Shooter would still be cool even if that item was in the game

***Marilink*** · 06-05-2011, 07:32 PM

^...I'm trying really hard to understand what you're saying here.

I forgot that OoA didn't have a slingshot per se, but OoS certainly did.

**X-3** · 06-05-2011, 08:07 PM

Yeah, that smaller statement probably muddled things up a bit. Let me see if I can reconstruct things. I'll probably fail for a multitude of reasons though.

What original statement was alluding to: Basically, neither Oracle games had the Bow, which has out shined the Slingshot in a lot of the latter weapon's 'big' appearances.

Small statement was me going "okay, even if the Bow was in both games, the Hyper Slingshot would be cool for it's 3-way shooting and the Seed Shooter would be cool for seed bouncing"

now after some thought I'm not even sure where I was going with anything anymore

(oh lol the 'big appearances' were 3d argh)

***Marilink*** · 06-05-2011, 08:15 PM

Honestly, to me, the bow was never make-it-or-break-it in any 2D Zelda. I always used the boomerang more.

Hydronix · 06-05-2011, 08:53 PM

I gotta go with the Spinner. So underused... Although I only found the Slingshot useless in TP since you needed to use it literally once. In the other games, I liked it.

The Bombchus in the Oracle Games were pretty much no more useful than the bombs in general. The Biggoron's Sword in that game was also not much needed either. Especially since most bosses required the dungeon item AND strategy.

***Cosmonautical*** · 06-06-2011, 03:17 AM

The slingshot has always been totally bullcrap compared to the bow & arrows, it's basically just a low-level bow. They should've made you upgrade from hunting bow to longbow instead, especially since in OoT you have to stand still to use the thing manually. It would've been a good tradeoff because then you could use the longbow for distance sniping and the short bow for close combat. The longbow would be more powerful, but take longer to pull, etc.

Of course, every projectile weapon has been bull**** since the super boomerang in Link's Awakening.

Well, except the Link's Awakening and LoZ magic wands. THOSE ARE THE BEST ITEMS EVER.

06-05-2011, 01:12 PM	#1
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,103 Thanks: 2,158 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Worst Zelda Items? We're always having "your favorites" and so on. What do you guys think were the worst items? I think I'll be daring and say the actual Wind Waker was crap. They should've stuck with the Ocarina format. Then again, at least it actually worked 100%, unlike that microphone system in the DS games.

06-05-2011, 01:19 PM	#2
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	The Spinner. Outside of one awesome boss battle and collecting a few items, it's completely useless. Same with the Rod of Dominion, really. And Deku Nuts. How often do you use those?

06-05-2011, 01:24 PM	#3
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,103 Thanks: 2,158 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Yeah, that's the sort of stuff I was thinking of. Deku nuts are kind of like a much less effective boomerang. I was pretty glad they did away with them and just made them slingshot ammo.

06-05-2011, 02:11 PM	#4
*Marilink* Gotta catch 'em all! Supermod! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 29,118 Thanks: 2,536 Thanked 1,823 Times in 1,008 Posts	The mole mitts are useful, but so friggin' stupid by design. Minish Cap items tend to be like that...the Gust Jar, the Cane of Pacci... I never liked the fact that the power bracelet was an equippable item in the Gameboy Zeldas. It should have just been an upgrade, but I got used to it. I wish the spinner was more useful, because I really do like the concept. It's the reason why Arbiter's Grounds is my second-favorite dungeon in that game. I want to kill myself every time I'm forced to use the pan pipe **** in Spirit Tracks. In fact, I haven't even made it past the third dungeon in that game because I wasn't having any fun at all and that instrument was complete ass. I agree, Deku Nuts are useless. Though I always used them against Ghoma...I only learned last month that people use the slingshot. On a completely opposite note, I just re-started OoS and OoA again, and I've gotta say, they have probably my favorite item selection in all of Zeldadom. Two words: Magnet Gloves.

06-05-2011, 03:22 PM	#5
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	The Dominion Rod, partly because it literally breaks down right after you beat the Temple of Time. The Spinner was cool but very underused, so it counts. The Slingshot in TP gets the gold medal for uselessness. I struggle to remember it exists.

06-05-2011, 03:44 PM	#6
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	Yeah, the Slingshot kind of sucked in every game it was in.

06-05-2011, 05:31 PM	#7
1-up Salesman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Letting you guys know that I'm planning on continuing Attack of the Spammers soon. Gender: Posts: 4,095 Thanks: 2,162 Thanked 250 Times in 194 Posts Blog Entries: 9	Yeah, the only time I've used the slingshot recently in TP was when I ran out of arrows. And yeah- I just got past the Yeti Mansion, and I haven't had to use the spinner much since I got out of the "Desert Temple."

06-05-2011, 07:18 PM	#9
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Yeah, and guess what item wasn't in the Oracle games? okay, the Hyper Slingshot and the Seed Shooter would still be cool even if that item was in the game

06-05-2011, 07:32 PM	#10
*Marilink* Gotta catch 'em all! Supermod! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 29,118 Thanks: 2,536 Thanked 1,823 Times in 1,008 Posts	^...I'm trying really hard to understand what you're saying here. I forgot that OoA didn't have a slingshot per se, but OoS certainly did.

06-05-2011, 08:07 PM	#11
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Yeah, that smaller statement probably muddled things up a bit. Let me see if I can reconstruct things. I'll probably fail for a multitude of reasons though. What original statement was alluding to: Basically, neither Oracle games had the Bow, which has out shined the Slingshot in a lot of the latter weapon's 'big' appearances. Small statement was me going "okay, even if the Bow was in both games, the Hyper Slingshot would be cool for it's 3-way shooting and the Seed Shooter would be cool for seed bouncing" now after some thought I'm not even sure where I was going with anything anymore (oh lol the 'big appearances' were 3d argh)

06-05-2011, 08:15 PM	#12
*Marilink* Gotta catch 'em all! Supermod! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 29,118 Thanks: 2,536 Thanked 1,823 Times in 1,008 Posts	Honestly, to me, the bow was never make-it-or-break-it in any 2D Zelda. I always used the boomerang more.

06-05-2011, 08:53 PM	#13
Hydronix Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Gender: Posts: 91 Thanks: 33 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	I gotta go with the Spinner. So underused... Although I only found the Slingshot useless in TP since you needed to use it literally once. In the other games, I liked it. The Bombchus in the Oracle Games were pretty much no more useful than the bombs in general. The Biggoron's Sword in that game was also not much needed either. Especially since most bosses required the dungeon item AND strategy.

06-06-2011, 03:17 AM	#14
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,103 Thanks: 2,158 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	The slingshot has always been totally bullcrap compared to the bow & arrows, it's basically just a low-level bow. They should've made you upgrade from hunting bow to longbow instead, especially since in OoT you have to stand still to use the thing manually. It would've been a good tradeoff because then you could use the longbow for distance sniping and the short bow for close combat. The longbow would be more powerful, but take longer to pull, etc. Of course, every projectile weapon has been bull**** since the super boomerang in Link's Awakening. Well, except the Link's Awakening and LoZ magic wands. THOSE ARE THE BEST ITEMS EVER.