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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:22 pm
[QUOTE="CaptHayfever, post: 1550875, member: 25169"]Could've been worse--it could've washed up on North Sentinel Island. Then we'd know where the debris was but never be able to get to it.
And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"[/QUOTE]
That'd be an interesting test of India's desire to let them stay isolated. I'm not sure Malaysia or China would take well to "violent islanders don't want to meet us" as a reason to ignore the first decent lead in a year.
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:16 pm
^Part of the reason their isolation is respected is that the Sentinelese probably have near-zero immunity to the rest of the world's diseases; is it worth risking the death of the entire tribe just to find info on people who are already dead?
And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:42 pm
^I'm not advocating it, but with all the resources that have already been spent on absolutely nothing, I can't see the world just ignoring a lead because it happened to wash up on a largely uncontacted island. The Sentinelese have survived brief contacts before - there'd at least be an attempt to sneak onto the island and grab whatever was in reach. They wouldn't necessarily have to contaminate the island or kill anyone to get what they needed.
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:39 pm
There may be more parts...
New evidence in MH370 search as Reunion island officials ignore Malaysia’s pleas for help
THE Reunion resident who found the “plane door” — which turned out to be a ladder — last Sunday has now discovered a plastic component appearing to resemble a plane part on a beach on the island’s capital St Denis.
Police are now investigating the plastic moulding
which witnesses are speculating resembles a plane window.
Since last week’s discovery, locals have been gripped by what’s been labelled “rubbish fever” over what is being recovered from the beach.
But since the plastic moulding was handed to police on Tuesday, speculation has been rife on talkback station Freedom Radio about the object, with callers all afternoon debating whether it was from a plane or the side of a sewing machine.
More: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 7468553512
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:59 pm
Nothing else about it so far, but the part is MH370:
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:19 pm
Sad... but confirmed, as IAN already posted...
MH370 search: Plane debris is from missing plane
AUTHORITIES have confirmed a wing part found on an Indian Ocean island was from missing airliner MH370. Now aviation experts say it proves the aircraft was in a controlled crash.
Malaysia’s Prime Minister Najib Razak confirmed in a televised statement early this morning that the plane debris found on Reunion was part of the missing Boeing 777.
“It is with a very heavy heart that I must tell you that an international team of experts has conclusively confirmed that the aircraft debris ... is indeed MH370,” Prime Minister Razak told reporters.
More: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 7471271416
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:06 am
At least there is finally some resolution to the question of what happened to the plane's passengers.
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:16 am
People are claiming to have found wing-like things at the Maldives, too...
Maldives join hunt for MH370 after debris sighting claims
The Maldives joined a regional search for wreckage from missing flight MH370 following reports that islanders in the Indian ocean atoll nation had spotted unidentified debris, police said Sunday.
Maldivian police are responding to several sightings of debris washed up along the northern atolls of the archipelago, some of which occurred about a month ago, a police spokesman said.
Authorities were alerted to the sightings yesterday.
"There is new attention to these sightings after the discovery at Reunion," the spokesman said referring to a wing part found in late July on the French territory located 2,000 miles (3,200 kilometres) south-west of the Maldives.
More: http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/mal ... r-BBlApGK?
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:35 am
Actually, the Maldives debris may be from capsized barge...
MH370 debris can’t be on Reunion Island and the Maldives at the same time, says expert
DEBRIS being collected by residents of the Maldives is most likely to have come from a barge that capsized in February.
Barge captain, Abdulla Rasheed has told online news site Haveeru, the vessel was carrying 4000 units of mostly wall panels.
The materials were being shipped to a new resort in Raa Atoll when the barge capsized on February 10, Mr Rasheed said.
“From the pictures of the debris found on most of the islands, I can almost certainly say that they are from the cargo we were carrying,” he said.
Malaysia has formally requested the Maldives provide assistance in the search for debris from MH370 following reports of unidentified items.
More: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 7477749825
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:37 am
Expect much more speculation until the discovery of the main wreckage...
Malaysian news agency speculates MH370 ‘floated for awhile’ after coming down in Indian Ocean
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 7481418764
MISSING Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 may have “floated for a while” on the surface of the Indian Ocean before sinking largely intact, according to Malaysian media reports.
An interview with satellite communications expert Zaaim Redha Abdul Rahman by Malaysia’s national news agency Bernama
highlights the limited damage to a flaperon found washed up on Reunion Island as supporting the idea that the Boeing 777-200ER with 239 people on board had a successful emergency landing.
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:35 pm
More speculation about the resting place...
Search for wreck of Malaysia Airlines MH370 thousands of kilometres off target, say experts
OCEANOGRAPHERS in Germany claim the search for the wreck of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 is thousands of kilometres off-beam.
A wing part from the plane that washed up a month ago
on the island of Reunion “probably came from the eastern equatorial Indian Ocean,” said Andreas Villwock of the Geomar Helmholtz Centre for Oceanography in Kiel on Friday.
That would be thousands of kilometres from the previously presumed crash site at 35 degrees latitude south of the Equator.
More: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 7503602383
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:36 pm
MH370 investigation: French investigators confirm flaperon is from missing plane
FRENCH prosecutors have confirmed that a wing part found on a remote Indian Ocean island was from ill-fated Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, a month after tests on the flaperon began.
“It is possible today to say with certainty that the flaperon discovered on Reunion island on July 29 came from flight MH370,” Paris prosecutors said in a statement, confirming claims made by Malaysia’s prime minister last month.
In the statement, prosecutors said investigators discovered three numbers on the wing part, and later concluded that one of the figures corresponded to the serial number of an MH370 flaperon.
More: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 7511936586
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:14 pm
MH370 search to revisit more than 30 sites previously ruled out
THE search for MH370 will return to more than 30 sites in coming weeks to ensure nothing has been missed.
The latest update on the underwater search reveals the decision to revisit “Classification 2” sites where search vessels have previously made “sonar contacts of interest”.
Despite being rated as “unlikely to be significant to the search” the Australian Transport Safety Bureau now believes they warrant a second look.
More: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 7540840487
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:10 am
MH370 disaster: Australian report confirms electrical failure before disappearance
BURIED in the lengthy report released last week by Australia’s MH370 investigators is one crucial revelation: the aircraft suffered a serious technical problem triggered by a power outage.
The Australian Defence Science and Technology report
officially acknowledges the doomed Malaysia Airlines flight suffered a sudden electrical failure before its disappearance on March 8 last year, the Daily Beast
found. This backs the popular“zombie plane” theory,
whereby the missing plane’s avionic systems are ravaged, rendering the flight crew helpless, and the aircraft continued flying on autopilot until it ran out of fuel.
A grim timeline
reveals the power blackout occurred in a 56-minute window between the final scheduled contact from the jet’s Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System and a failed attempt from dispatchers to contact the crew.
The report provides four possible explanations for the outage, which place blame either on human intervention or a technical fault: crew action in the cockpit using overhead switches, a sudden error requiring an Auxiliary Power Unit to start emergency power, somebody pulling out and resetting circuit breakers in the equipment bay, or intermittent technical failures.
Whether one of these scenarios is correct can only be confirmed if the search for the lost plane
The timeline shows that after the electrical failure, at least one technological system managed to regain power 60 seconds later and kept operating, sending a series of hourly satellite pings for the remainder of the flight. Its final ping was sent 10 minutes before the jet crashed into the ocean.
In the end, a flight that should have taken just over five hours came to a halt over the southern Indian Ocean, seven hours and 38 minutes after takeoff.
More: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 3ca216de9c
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:05 pm
So very sad to read...
MH370 search: Families of Chinese passengers claim they’re alive and being held captive as prisoners
FAMILIES of the Chinese passengers who were on board MH370 are not giving up hope, claiming they’re alive and want the search to be widened.
In a statement released in Malaysia, the families of the 154 passengers said they believed they were still alive and being held as “prisoners” at a secret location.
“In the absence of proof to the contrary, we believe it is possible the missing may still be alive.
“If this is so, we would willingly grant to the perpetrators amnesty in return for the release of the missing,” they said.
They also said they did not believe the flaperon found on Reunion Island last year was from the missing Malaysia Airlines jet.
More: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 9d6f27b32d
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:07 pm
They were held hostage for longer than a year!
It's almost been two years!!!
Also, can citizens of China give amnesty on China's behalf? I don't think that's possible.
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:58 pm
They might be able to opt not to press their own criminal charges, but whoever did it would still presumably be facing terrorism, hijacking, kidnapping, etc, charges from Malaysia and others.
Either way, there does eventually come a time when you have to let go and accept what happened. The Reunion debris is likely to be the most definitive proof they're ever going to receive, unfortunately.
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 9:05 pm
The search for MH370 just got a whole lot more complicated
The Australian Transport Safety Bureau is ready to accept the possibility that missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 was in a controlled glide in the final moments of its doomed flight, almost two years ago, when it landed in the southern Indian Ocean.
If that was the case, and all the other fundamental assumptions are correct, the current priority search area might have to be three times as large as it is.
This concession by the Australia-managed search for the jet is made by the chief commissioner of the ATSB, Martin Dolan, in a paywalled interview with The Times.
The already extended priority sea floor search zone for the jet was based on the aircraft flying on a predetermined heading without further pilot input after first being deliberately diverted onto a westerly and then north-westerly course toward central Asia.
If, however, the captain was in control of the plane until very late in the flight, and it was deliberately made to glide even after the power to both engines stopped because of fuel exhaustion, it could have flown maybe 100 kilometres or more than modelled, vastly increasing the number of possible paths to an even larger area of the ocean than the 120,000 square kilometres that are being searched.
More: http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia ... gfYrC&ocid
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:30 am
MH370: Eight questions on missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 that need answers
Malaysian military radar tracked what is believed to have been MH370 as it turned back towards Penang and then veered northwest in the Malacca Strait. Did military radar capture MH370 at the exact time that it disappeared on air traffic control screens as provided by secondary surveillance radar?
The flight path presented by the ATSB in a June 2014 report shows a sharp turn to the left after passing IGARI (a point in the South China Sea where MH370 disappeared from ATC radars - scroll up to see graphic) but experts say this sharp turn exceeds the performance limitations of a B777.
Was the turn actually captured on radar, or was it inferred from other data?
3)If the post-IGARI turn back was not captured, where is the evidence that later radar captures were indeed of MH370?
A recent report by Australia’s Defence Science and Technology Group
(DST Group) used radar data supplied by Malaysia to estimate the speed of MH370 at the turn back after IGARI. Researchers detected something strange: a big reduction in speed followed by a recovery to normal cruise speeds. The results were the same even when a filter was applied to the radar data.
Is there an explanation for this significant change in speed at the turn?
In the same report, the DST Group claimed that the radar data provided by Malaysia shows that the second-to-last radar capture of MH370 was at 18:01:49 (GMT) and the last at 18:22:12 (GMT). However, that differs from radar data presented to next-of-kin at a conference held at the Lido Hotel in Beijing on March 21, 2014, which shows several radar captures within the same time frame. What is the nature of this discrepancy?
THE FRENCH ANALYSIS OF THE FLAPERON
Many questions remain unanswered regarding the flaperon that was recovered at La Reunion in July 2015 because the French have not released the results of their investigation.
The barnacle growth on the flaperon was reportedly consistent with that of an object which had been completely submerged. If this is true, are the results consistent with buoyancy studies of the flaperon?
7) Has the barnacle species attached to the flaperon been definitively determined? What is the habitat for this species? Is it consistent with a part that has drifted from the southern Indian Ocean to La Reunion?
It has been reported that the damage to the flaperon is consistent with controlled ditching. What does the failure analysis reveal regarding how the flaperon became separated from the wing and how it sustained the damage to its trailing edge?
Mr Exner said the importance of a detailed flaperon analysis could not be underestimated.
I quoted only the questions mid-way through the article: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 028bc954f5
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:52 pm
Not confirmed from MH370... yet...
Independent experts give their opinions on new ‘possible MH370 debris’ found in Mozambique Channel
A PIECE of “possible MH370 debris” found on a sandbank in the Mozambique Channel is in the process of being transported to Australia for further examination.
The object, believed to be from the horizontal stabiliser of an aircraft, was found by American blogger Blaine Gibson, who is conducting a private investigation
into the plane’s disappearance.
“A piece of metal, approximately one metre in length, has been found on a beach in Mozambique,” The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) said in a statement this afternoon.
“The debris is to be transferred to Australia where it will be examined by officials from Australia and Malaysia, as well as international specialists.
“The location of the debris is consistent with drift modelling commissioned by ATSB and reaffirms the search area for MH370 in the southern Indian Ocean.”
Like their Australian counterparts, Malaysian officials have expresed optimism about the find, with transport minister Liow Tiong Lai tweeting that, based on early reports, there was a “high possibility debris found in Mozambique belongs to a B777”.
This contrasts with the opinions of independent aviation experts who privately viewed images and video of the part on Mr Gibson’s Facebook page over the weekend and believe it is unlikely to have come from MH370.
More: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 4aa8c7169e
Then there's this... because shiny bolts, perhaps?... but definitely no obvious sea water evidence...
New MH370 conspiracy: Was Mozambique debris planted?
More: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... 0f152350a4
SOMETIMES truth is stranger than fiction but the circumstances surrounding the discovery of a possible second piece of debris from MH370 are bizarre enough to worry both the rational and the conspiracy minded.
US blogger and amateur MH370 sleuth Blaine Alan Gibson found the part, which is believed to be from an aircraft’s horizontal stabiliser, on a sandbank in the Mozambique Channel at the weekend.
The Malaysia Airlines flight vanished with 239 people on board en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8, 2014.
Mr Gibson, whose globetrotting investigative ways earned him comparisons to Harrison Ford’s Indiana Jones character in the US press overnight, has been island-hopping for more than a year, interviewing witnesses about possible sightings of MH370 and combing the coastlines for evidence.
So it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that he finally got lucky and found something that came off an aircraft.
What would make it hard to swallow is if the part — which surfaced just days before the second anniversary of MH370’s disappearance — really did come from the plane.
Incredibly, that is increasingly looking like the case.